My smoke and mirrors from wind rant

[philcski]

Originally Posted by gales0678

on point #2 , while they are hard to fill , doesn't the fact that the short run for to the 1st turn turn trainers off to running in these races at GP , surely something could be done with the configuartion of the track to fix this no?

Yes, I would guess so (afraid of drawing a wide post), and not really... they decided to make it a mile and an eighth track when them renovation occurred, they have to live with it. Aqueduct, Arlington, Hialeah, and Hollywood are all 9F tracks as well so it isn't a new idea.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Steve

I have a PDF of the charts for the dirt races on FD day. It's too large to load. Any way to get around the max size?

try saving all the pdf's in a folder, and zipping that folder then uploading, might work?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Why does that show something? He dropped SC when it mattered (and all but QR). Dunkirk went on and SC got WIPED OUT, with the rest of the field.

Surely, someone who watches as many races as you do has some sense of how HUGE Dunkirk's run was that day given the setup (and the way the track was playing).

And, you don't really take anything Haskins writes seriously, do you?

DrugS is the horsey board Ballantyne (or better yet, 'Drug' Henning...) A magician. What's being said isn't as important as the nifty screen captures, photoshop puffery and snappy PP windows. Everyone is left drooling and starry-eyed by his deft sleight-of-hand.

And easy on my man Haskin...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Why does that show something?

If his turn move would have been as explosive as advertised a complete one paced dog biscuit he had the jump on like SC would not have been able to stay as close to him as he was through it.

[Indian Charlie]

You just don't like UBS.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Kasept

DrugS is the horsey board Ballantyne (or better yet, 'Drug' Henning...) A magician. What's being said isn't as important as the nifty screen captures, photoshop puffery and snappy PP windows. Everyone is left drooling and starry-eyed by his deft sleight-of-hand.

What are you talking about by sleight of hand?

The screen captures and stuff only make it easier for some to understand what an incredibly stupid comment was made that I was quoting.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

What are you talking about by sleight of hand?

The screen captures and stuff only make it easier for some to understand what an incredibly stupid comment was made that I was quoting.

He thinks using big words is a much more effective way to make your point.



(I'm only kidding Steve! )

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If his turn move would have been as explosive as advertised a complete one paced dog biscuit he had the jump on like SC would not have been able to stay as close to him as he was through it.

Is this really true? Did SC actually run through the turn with Dunkirk? Or did SC really suck up in the 2 path while Dunkirk was actually bidding into the pace 5 wide? Was there ever a point in the race where SC actually was a threat to Dunkirk?

Dunkirk did all the turn running, against it, while SC picked up the pieces of an otherwise collapsing race. That he couldn't get by the bothered and not very good Theregoesjojo says just about all there is to say about it.

But, you're only looking to push some buttons.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

He thinks using big words is a much more effective way to make your point.

combined with names of people I've never heard of....

Who the hell is Ballantyne?

I had to put up with this last year before Denis Of Cork lost that race at Hawthorne Park and Kasept insisted that I was wrong to say that fellow lightly raced horse and recent allowance race winner Big Brown was a much more serious Derby contender than Denis Of Cork.

All the screen captures in the world couldn't convince him his Southwest Stakes win was greatly aided by a Sacred Journey setup.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Is this really true? Did SC actually run through the turn with Dunkirk? Or did SC really suck up in the 2 path while Dunkirk was actually bidding into the pace 5 wide? Was there ever a point in the race where SC actually was a threat to Dunkirk?

Dunkirk did all the turn running, against it, while SC picked up the pieces of an otherwise collapsing race. That he couldn't get by the bothered and not very good Theregoesjojo says just about all there is to say about it.

But, you're only looking to push some buttons.

fat - in my opinon since there was only 1 race that day at that distance , isn't a better way to look at the bias by seeing who won each race and where they were at the 1st call of the race?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

combined with names of people I've never heard of... Who the hell is Ballantyne?

Ballantyne was a comedic magician. You must have seen him... May be Ballantine (ine instead of yne). Carl Ballantine... Was on McHale's Navy. Hysterical. But a magician too.

And I'm kidding about the slight of hand... I love the floor shows! I never get to kid around. Andy kids around and it's comic Masterpiece Theater... Jeez.

(And Denis of Cork is still better than Big Brown.)

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

combined with names of people I've never heard of....

Who the hell is Ballantyne?

.

The only Ballantyne I know of is a resort in NC.

You're the horsey board resort?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Kasept

(And Denis of Cork is still better than Big Brown.)

I laughed.

[djw]

Ballantine the Magnificent was a tremendous act. Yes, he did play Lester Gruber on McHale's Navy as well.

Moving into Esoteric territory in 5..4..3......

More tangential McHale's Navy notes at a later time...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Ballantyne was a comedic magician. You must have seen him... May be Ballantine (ine instead of yne). Carl Ballantine... Was on McHale's Navy. Hysterical. But a magician too.

And I'm kidding about the slight of hand... I love the floor shows! I never get to kid around. Andy kids around and it's comic Masterpiece Theater... Jeez.

(And Denis of Cork is still better than Big Brown.)

Kid around!

Drug Henning is kidding around?

I'm out for blood now. I've already finished half an albumn of vile Kaspet songs.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Kid around!

Drug Henning is kidding around?

I'm out for blood now. I've already finished half an albumn of vile Kaspet songs.

'Drug' Henning was interminably clever, droll even... Dontchathink?

Do the songs involve unspeakable acts with "The Women of DT"...??? NICE!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

More like former Playgirl models that move em up off of Mott and Pletcher.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

More like former Playgirl models that move em up off of Mott and Pletcher.