Trevor Denman - Gio Ponti - Page 2

MaTH716 · #21 03-10-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Big deal. The guy has a good eye for photos. Last time I checked, we have replays, so it doesn't really matter. It doesn't cancel out all of his other annoying traits.

Eyes for horse shooting up the rail > good eyes for photo's

Left Bank · #22 03-10-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.

If you want to see/hear an announcer make good calls on the wire,tune in to Ed Burgart at Los Alamitos.He is almost better than shuttercam.

Travis Stone · #23 03-10-2009, 02:24 PM

I've made my fair share of "on the limb" photo calls... last year's Super Derby Prelude was one I sweated-out for a good two minutes before they posted the winner. I've also bailed on a few, but oh well.

Calling photos is not a macho thing with announcers by any stretch. Not once I have I received, made or heard of a call saying, "Holy ****, did you see that photo I just called?"

I think calling the photo is over-rated from the little to the big races. It's what goes on between the start and the finish which sets-up the photo that, in my opinion, is more important from the announcers perspective. If the listener has no idea who is in the photo, than what good is the photo to begin with? That sort of mentality...

Travis Stone · #24 03-10-2009, 02:37 PM

Let's see if this works, but I just took this photo from the booth here at LAD. Notice the massive pool sizes as wagering just opened for our fifth race.

My booth is another 10-15 feet before where those green bushes start inside the rail, so it really makes the outside horse look like he's farther ahead of the inside horse everytime. I think in today's fourth race I was a bit off with this... the outside horse looked like he was home first, but in reality, the inside horse held on.

#25 03-10-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Yeah

At one time, a very distant time, I thought this board was more for BETTORS than casual 'fans'.

Well then you made a very stupid call.

God bless it.
Will somebody please slap this guy
upside the head with a frying pan.

When you read the first post and...
Ahhh forget it. YOu dont.

King Glorious · #26 03-10-2009, 02:50 PM

It's why Trevor is the best in the business today. Along with Marshall Cassidy, they are my two favorites ever.

NTamm1215 · #27 03-10-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

It's why Trevor is the best in the business today. Along with Marshall Cassidy, they are my two favorites ever.

Sure, anyone with any street sense knows Trevor is the best around.

NT

letswastemoney · #28 03-10-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Sure, anyone with any street sense knows Trevor is the best around.

NT

lol I laughed at this

dagolfer33 · #29 03-10-2009, 03:02 PM

Travis, seeing your photo of LA Downs fine dirt/turf courses reminded me of a curiousity you may or may not know the answer to. Will EVDs turf course, which has been under construction for years, be operational for this upcoming season?

the_fat_man · #30 03-10-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Sure, anyone with any street sense knows Trevor is the best around.

NT

Trevor is the best LOW TAKING MUMBER as the horses load.

And

Imbriale is the best at waiting at least 5 seconds AFTER they break to announce that they have.

Our cup runneth over.

Travis Stone · #31 03-10-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33

Travis, seeing your photo of LA Downs fine dirt/turf courses reminded me of a curiousity you may or may not know the answer to. Will EVDs turf course, which has been under construction for years, be operational for this upcoming season?

Supposed to be, yes...

ArlJim78 · #32 03-10-2009, 03:30 PM

i didn't notice that Trevor called the photo, but its not something I care about really, the announcers opinion of the photo.

I'll take any of the announcers on this board before TD anyday. John Imbriale is a god compared to him. I don't get all the fawning over him. The amount of inaccuracies that he comes up with is staggering.

Travis Stone · #33 03-10-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.

Rocking Rocky Dash overcame some traffic trouble to win today at 12-1!!

ateamstupid · #34 03-10-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Sure, anyone with any street sense knows Trevor is the best around.

NT

very clever.

SundayStar · #35 03-10-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Big deal. The guy has a good eye for photos. Last time I checked, we have replays, so it doesn't really matter. It doesn't cancel out all of his other annoying traits.

amen. who cares? even if he calls it wrong, does it make any difference at all? i never understood the tv announcers who are "afraid" to call it. it's like they're worried they might make someone tear up their ticket.

King Glorious · #36 03-10-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Sure, anyone with any street sense knows Trevor is the best around.

NT

Oh yeah. I forgot that one. I forgot that nobody is allowed to make a mistake. You have to call over 1000 races a year and you better not make a mistake. I would love to hear all of those that criticize him try to do it once. Then if they get through that one race, let's see how they handle a full card. Not one of those cards with four and five horse fields but full ones. With jockeys wearing the silks of owners that they aren't all that familiar with. It's not as easy as people seem to think it is. I think that's part of why you never see the announcers that are on here criticizing any others. Because they know how hard it is. I bet most of you that criticize them couldn't do it even if you were watching a replay and knew the results already.

Indian Charlie · #37 03-10-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Oh yeah. I forgot that one. I forgot that nobody is allowed to make a mistake. You have to call over 1000 races a year and you better not make a mistake. I would love to hear all of those that criticize him try to do it once. Then if they get through that one race, let's see how they handle a full card. Not one of those cards with four and five horse fields but full ones. With jockeys wearing the silks of owners that they aren't all that familiar with. It's not as easy as people seem to think it is. I think that's part of why you never see the announcers that are on here criticizing any others. Because they know how hard it is. I bet most of you that criticize them couldn't do it even if you were watching a replay and knew the results already.

dorkin makes far more and bigger mistakes.

brianwspencer · #38 03-10-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Oh yeah. I forgot that one. I forgot that nobody is allowed to make a mistake. You have to call over 1000 races a year and you better not make a mistake. I would love to hear all of those that criticize him try to do it once. Then if they get through that one race, let's see how they handle a full card. Not one of those cards with four and five horse fields but full ones. With jockeys wearing the silks of owners that they aren't all that familiar with. It's not as easy as people seem to think it is. I think that's part of why you never see the announcers that are on here criticizing any others. Because they know how hard it is. I bet most of you that criticize them couldn't do it even if you were watching a replay and knew the results already.

I agree with most of this -- though on the other hand, it may need to be cleared up because some people are taking great liberty in their logical leaps.

For myself, I agreed that I was impressed with the fact that he called Gio Ponti. I don't think it makes him a great announcer, and he's probably not even in my top 5 favorites, it was just one thing that stood out to me on that broadcast, the same way it did to CSC. Generally, race callers are reluctant to make a call on anything they could potentially be wrong about -- ie anything less than an obvious head, so that's what made this really stick out was that it was so close and it just hit me as something you didn't hear every day. I also found it interesting that he was so sure of it, when the photo showed it was awfully close.

Doesn't make him the best. Doesn't make him less obnoxious for some of the things he does. Doesn't undo his botched Street Sense call in his second career Breeders' Cup race call. It's not supposed to. It was just a very unexpected, very confident, out of the norm declaration compared to what we're used to hearing during finishes that close.

No more than that.

herkhorse · #39 03-10-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.

calling a Q race can't be easy, no matter what the names are

ateamstupid · #40 03-10-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Oh yeah. I forgot that one. I forgot that nobody is allowed to make a mistake. You have to call over 1000 races a year and you better not make a mistake. I would love to hear all of those that criticize him try to do it once. Then if they get through that one race, let's see how they handle a full card. Not one of those cards with four and five horse fields but full ones. With jockeys wearing the silks of owners that they aren't all that familiar with. It's not as easy as people seem to think it is. I think that's part of why you never see the announcers that are on here criticizing any others. Because they know how hard it is. I bet most of you that criticize them couldn't do it even if you were watching a replay and knew the results already.

It's the freaking Breeders' Cup and he misidentifies a 10-length winner until the horse is draped in flowers. I know how difficult it is to call a race, but that's pretty inexcusable for a guy who's supposed to be the best. Then he completely fails to mention the breakdown of Pine Island during the Distaff. And I don't want to hear the nonsense about how he didn't want to upset the fans. He had no idea that it happened.