What the 2nd Ammendment is for

[golfer]

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[GBBob]

Originally Posted by golfer

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Sad story..still don't think we should be arming citizens though. I'll troll through you tube some day and find videos of the stories of kids blown away by their parents when they come home unexepectedly.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Sad story..still don't think we should be arming citizens though. I'll troll through you tube some day and find videos of the stories of kids blown away by their parents when they come home unexepectedly.

who is 'we'? i mean, if someone is arming citizens, then i bought and paid for my guns for nothing..i'd love to get some for free!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Danzig

who is 'we'? i mean, if someone is arming citizens, then i bought and paid for my guns for nothing..i'd love to get some for free!

ok, ok..."that citizens should be able to be armed"..

I know I am in the minority here, but anyone with a cause, no matter how extreme, can find something to justify their reasoning. Just bugs me when Golfer posts this as the end all to why the second amendment is being interperted correctly now. I'm not sure of the relationship between her story and a well armed militia?

[golfer]

Originally Posted by GBBob

ok, ok..."that citizens should be able to be armed"..

I know I am in the minority here, but anyone with a cause, no matter how extreme, can find something to justify their reasoning. Just bugs me when Golfer posts this as the end all to why the second amendment is being interperted correctly now. I'm not sure of the relationship between her story and a well armed militia?

Bob, I am not a gun owner, never have and probably never will.
To be honest, not trying to make any "end all" statements. I saw the video, thought it would make for a potentially interesting discussion. I was really impressed with how composed she was, and how eloquently she spoke about something so emotional.
I do think her final sentence is the point of this whole argument.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by golfer

Bob, I am not a gun owner, never have and probably never will.
To be honest, not trying to make any "end all" statements. I saw the video, thought it would make for a potentially interesting discussion. I was really impressed with how composed she was, and how eloquently she spoke about something so emotional.
I do think her final sentence is the point of this whole argument.

Honestly Seth, when I first watched it I thought it was rigged..the way they had her lit. All that was missing was a halo photoshopped over her head.

If you put a gun to my head, pun intented, I would think there is a middle ground on responsible gun ownership. But with the NRA and many individuals fighting every seemingly sensible piece of gun legislation as "chipping away at the 2nd ammendment", I feel that the only way to combat them is to take an equally polarizing viewpoint in the other direction. I'm not opposed to hunting, skeet shooting, etc. But I really don't think concealed carry laws are in my best interests as a citizen and can't understand why semi automatic weapons are necessary outside of the military or police.

There..for what it's worth..

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by golfer

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That was a very sad story, and my heart goes out to that lady.
I'm an armed Security Officer, I wear a gun every day that I work. I've been trained to shoot, and thankfully after almost 5 years on the job haven't had to pull my weapon. I do not have a personal gun at home or even a concealed permit, just my own personal choice. That's what this is about, your own personal choice, whether to carry a gun or not. I believe in the 2nd Ammendment, certainly in this case and alot of others, a gun may have saved some lives. This lady or someone else in in there pop's a cap in this nutball maybe her parent's are alive today! However, on the other hand this scumbag is one of many citizens, who do not need to have a gun in their hands. I believe STRONGLY in backround checks, waiting periods of 3 days at least, and any other measures attempt to not let guns get into the hands of the wrong individuals. In terms of Assault Weapons, I feel other than gun ranges, and police and or millitary, these guns should be banned from everywhere else. I Bush was an idiot for letting the ban lapse a fews years back, and from what I've read statistics show more of these guns are hitting the streets, and that is not a good thing.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

That was a very sad story, and my heart goes out to that lady.
I'm an armed Security Officer, I wear a gun every day that I work. I've been trained to shoot, and thankfully after almost 5 years on the job haven't had to pull my weapon. I do not have a personal gun at home or even a concealed permit, just my own personal choice. That's what this is about, your own personal choice, whether to carry a gun or not. I believe in the 2nd Ammendment, certainly in this case and alot of others, a gun may have saved some lives. This lady or someone else in in there pop's a cap in this nutball maybe her parent's are alive today! However, on the other hand this scumbag is one of many citizens, who do not need to have a gun in their hands. I believe STRONGLY in backround checks, waiting periods of 3 days at least, and any other measures attempt to not let guns get into the hands of the wrong individuals. In terms of Assault Weapons, I feel other than gun ranges, and police and or millitary, these guns should be banned from everywhere else. I Bush was an idiot for letting the ban lapse a fews years back, and from what I've read statistics show more of these guns are hitting the streets, and that is not a good thing.

i agree with all that as well. as for owning assault weapons...i don't own any, don't want any-but that doesn't mean other people feel the same. owning an assault weapon doesn't automatically infer criminality on the owner. there is at least one guy i've seen on t.v. who owns a tank. what the hell does he want that for?! why does he have it? best answer i can think of is because he can. different people like to have and collect different things. i have a dog. some other guy might own a tiger or a mountain lion. for what?! i don't know. but it doesn't mean he has malicious intent.
thing is, everyone who is a law abiding citizen who buys these weapons does it the right way. background checks, everything on file. so, any gun bans will affect who? law abiding citizens. it sure won't keep a criminal from buying a gun, as he isn't interested in doing anything the right way. he already has a criminal mind, you think he's going to sweat owning an illegal weapon?