Race Fans..........I'm Curious

[ironprospect]

there is no best horse of all time

yes

northern dancer without a doubt but in twenty years storm cat may get a lot of consideration

7 or 8

iron prospect - i reclaimed the sob

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

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I admit, I learned an awful lot about Coaltown from a certain person.....

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

1 - Ruffian, Citation, Coaltown

2 - No

3 - Bull Lea

4 - 3

5 - Affectionately

I've been thinking about this and just wanted to say if i had bet (who you'd pick here), I would have thought...

Ruffian
Hail to Reason
and Hoist the Flag
(... with Bewitch a close 4th)

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Since I don't want to overstep my bounds here and start a bunch of different threads, perhaps I can ask my initial questions right here:

1. Who do you consider the best 3 horses of all time? My vote goes to 1.) Secretariat, 2.) War Emblem, 3.) Affirmed

2. Would Alydar be considered the Best Horse To Have Never Won a triple crown race?

3. What horse is considered the best horse to ever breed (based on conbined race records of offspring)?

4. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 means not difficult at all, and 10 means extremely difficult, what do you rank Afleet Alex's recovery at The Preakness?

5. Who is your favorite horse of all time? Mine is Afleet Alex (I know surprise surprise).

War Emblem -- wow.....

1) Kincsem - best horse ever. 2) Secretariat 3) Citation
2) Spetacular Bid in my opinion was the best not to win
3) According to a story I read today Raibow Quest
4) 9.5
5) Awad

[sham]

Champions panel got it right, just missed the order IMO.
1- Secretariat
2- Citation
3- Man O'War

[TitanSooner]

didn't sham break two track records? except for the fact that Big Red still finished ahead of him in the KD and the PS ??

I'll take Sham over Alydar.. but that's no knock on Alydar by any means.

1) Swaps, Secertariat, Dr. Fager
2) Im guessing this question is related to those who have participated in TC races and I would say yes.
3) I would say numbers wise Hoist the Flag is the most impressive but cant argue with the legacy that is Northern Dancer.
4) 7.5
5) Moccasin, Crimson Saint, and Ruffian. 3 of the fastest fillies of all time... didnt have the honor to be alive while they raced...

[Buffymommy]

1. Secretariat, Man O'War, Ruffian

2. Sham (poor thing had a monster to deal with) then probably Alydar.

3. Hmmm... Not sure on this one.

4. 8.5

5. My fave? OHHH that is hard. Probably have to go with Winning Colors.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Since I don't want to overstep my bounds here and start a bunch of different threads, perhaps I can ask my initial questions right here:

1. Who do you consider the best 3 horses of all time? My vote goes to 1.) Secretariat, 2.) War Emblem, 3.) Affirmed

2. Would Alydar be considered the Best Horse To Have Never Won a triple crown race?

3. What horse is considered the best horse to ever breed (based on conbined race records of offspring)?

4. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 means not difficult at all, and 10 means extremely difficult, what do you rank Afleet Alex's recovery at The Preakness?

5. Who is your favorite horse of all time? Mine is Afleet Alex (I know surprise surprise).

1. I'll stick with the girls I've dated.... 1. Personal Ensign. 2. Ruffian. 3. Silverbulletday.
2. I'll go with Forego. Seven eclipse awards, you get a mention!
3. Northerrn Dancer
4. 9
5. Forego.

[shanej974]

1. 1) Man O' War 2) Seattle Slew 3) Secretariat

2. Alydar or Sham

3. Northern Dancer

4. 1- Against that field Afleet Alex could have fallen down, broken both legs, pooped, and been bred and he still would have won by open lengths (I believe AA is one of the most overrated horses by this board, the most underrated is easily Saint Liam, just my opinion).

5. Easy Goer

[Downthestretch55]

1) round table, Secretariat, Sea Bird
2) yes
3) Mr Prospector
4) 8
5) Seattle Slew, Sunday Silence, Medaglia d'Oro

[hockey2315]

1. Man O' War, Secretariat, Seattle Slew (I honestly believe that Barbaro could've been up there if he kept racing)
2. Alydar
3. Darley Arabian
4. I don't know
5. Birdstone, Barbaro, and Brian's Time (my list would probably be different if I were older)

[2Hot4TV]

1. Seretariat, Seattle Slew, Spectacular Bid.

2. Spectacular Bid

3. Northern Dancer is the most important sire of modern time.

4. 10 on my score card

5. Ack Ack and Precisionist, Because they always brought their A game. Speed, Speed nad more Speed.

I have to mention the great John Henry for all time favorite too.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Since I don't want to overstep my bounds here and start a bunch of different threads, perhaps I can ask my initial questions right here:

1. Who do you consider the best 3 horses of all time? My vote goes to 1.) Secretariat, 2.) War Emblem, 3.) Affirmed

2. Would Alydar be considered the Best Horse To Have Never Won a triple crown race?

3. What horse is considered the best horse to ever breed (based on conbined race records of offspring)?

4. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 means not difficult at all, and 10 means extremely difficult, what do you rank Afleet Alex's recovery at The Preakness?

5. Who is your favorite horse of all time? Mine is Afleet Alex (I know surprise surprise).

1) Always a good debate...I say Secretariat, Man O' War, Spectacular Bid...guessing you meant War ADMIRAL

2) No way Alydar was the best never to win a TC race, though he may have been the best to run in all 3 without winning one. Forego, Cigar, Buckpasser, Dr. Fager, etc, never ran in the TC, but were all better.

3) Northern Dancer produced champions on the track and is the most important "sire of sires" in the last 100 years.

4) 11...regardless of whom he beat that day, it was probably the most remarkable things I have ever seen in a big race.

5) Thunder Gulch, Silver Charm, Spectacular Bid

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

1) round table, Secretariat, Sea Bird
2) yes
3) Mr Prospector
4) 8
5) Seattle Slew, Sunday Silence, Medaglia d'Oro

a fellow round table devotee!! suh-weet. he always comes to mind, the BEST turf horse in north america ever. and could run on dirt as well! only an off track was his undoing. they don't make them like they used to.

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Since I don't want to overstep my bounds here and start a bunch of different threads, perhaps I can ask my initial questions right here:

1. Who do you consider the best 3 horses of all time? My vote goes to 1.) Secretariat, 2.) War Emblem, 3.) Affirmed

2. Would Alydar be considered the Best Horse To Have Never Won a triple crown race?

3. What horse is considered the best horse to ever breed (based on conbined race records of offspring)?

4. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 means not difficult at all, and 10 means extremely difficult, what do you rank Afleet Alex's recovery at The Preakness?

5. Who is your favorite horse of all time? Mine is Afleet Alex (I know surprise surprise).

1. Secretariat, Dr Fager, Man O War

2. No, I think Forego was

3. I'd say Northern Dancer

4. 4

5. Go Man Go (you didn't say they had to be TB)

[PSH]

1. Secretariat (awesome triple crown)
2. Forego (carried the weight)
3. Ruffian (best filly)

Best to never win - Sham

Northern Dancer

9.0

Pearl Necklace in NY in the late 70s was my first favorite horse who won stakes for Roger Lauren on the turf...

Favorite Barns:

Darby Dan
Rokeby Stable

both no longer around... although the Phillips still race from Darby Dan broodmares...

[irishtrekker]

1. Seattle Slew, Secretariat, Phar Lap
2. The Bid
3. Northern Dancer
4. 10
5. Non-racehorse: Big Ben; racehorse: Seattle Slew

[slotdirt]

Guess I'll answer as well:

1. Secretariat, Man o' War, Count Fleet
2. Spectacular Bid, Phar Lap
3. Northern Dancer or Mr. Prospector...I think I saw a stat that said something like 2/3 of all horses bred in the US today have one or the other in their blood somewhere. This would be where AP Indy comes in (best sire out there with neither Mr. P nor ND in the bloodlines ANYWHERE....$300k is a bargain if you ask me, but I digress.)
4. 10
5. Shaconage, Afleet Alex