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Old 09-27-2008, 07:19 PM
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- but figures just don't matter at all when you talk about the perverted form of horse racing that you see take place on synthetic tracks.
The PERVERSION is in the figures, not in the racing. Synthetic makes just as much 'sense' to some as turf racing.

'not fast enough' is old paradigm stuff.
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Old 09-27-2008, 07:41 PM
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The leaders went out way fast.
Bunch of Jelly legged horses at the
end except for your gray.
Palacio Del Amour ran fast fractions and had more to spurt away from the field but Stardom Bound was too fast but PDA ran very very very well for second
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Old 09-27-2008, 07:55 PM
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Palacio Del Amour ran fast fractions and had more to spurt away from the field but Stardom Bound was too fast but PDA ran very very very well for second
That horse feels like crap right now.
It was a good effort.
But run like a middle schooler.
They are 2 year olds, and there is a mature one amongst them.
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Old 09-27-2008, 08:40 PM
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Another great performance, as she keeps stretching out she looks more impressive!
Any details? I just got home and I'm thrilled, but Cal Racing doesn't have the replay yet. First off, I'm so glad that the filly wasn't hurt after being kicked by the pony - that was lucky. Secondly, it's nice to see that she is not a closing sprinter, which is what I was afraid of

Is anyone else surprised by Tapit's success? I loved him (naturally, as a son of Pulpit), but I didn't think he'd get off to such a good start. He's got a few other good babies besides SB.......
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:24 PM
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Synthetic makes just as much 'sense' to some as turf racing.
Racing over a turf course is great. Racing over a synthetic track is almost unwatchable.
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Old 09-28-2008, 05:18 PM
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anyone know what Beyer SB got? It's not on the DRF leaderboard, so obviously it's not a particularly good figure......thanks!
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Old 09-28-2008, 05:53 PM
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shes looks like a big brahma bull out there. Dominating horse right down the bias of the track. Highlight of the day.
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:16 PM
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shes looks like a big brahma bull out there. Dominating horse right down the bias of the track. Highlight of the day.
By the way, someone posted on another board that she got an 87.

SB really was impressive despite the so-so Beyer. I love this filly and she was actually doing running at the end; it wasn't just a matter of the fillies in front collapsing. I still have my doubts about how she's going to hold up against once the later-developing fillies start coming out of the woodwork because her running style is more conducive to runner up finishes than to wins. She sure is fun to watch, though.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:56 AM
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By the way, someone posted on another board that she got an 87.

SB really was impressive despite the so-so Beyer. I love this filly and she was actually doing running at the end; it wasn't just a matter of the fillies in front collapsing. I still have my doubts about how she's going to hold up against once the later-developing fillies start coming out of the woodwork because her running style is more conducive to runner up finishes than to wins. She sure is fun to watch, though.
Agreed, Betsy.

Bill Finley dismissed her Saturday morning (he also thought Zenyatta would get beat). That was enough for me.

I refuse to put numbers on what she did. They don't do her justice.
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:02 AM
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Agreed, Betsy.

Bill Finley dismissed her Saturday morning (he also thought Zenyatta would get beat). That was enough for me.

I refuse to put numbers on what she did. They don't do her justice.
Problem is she hasn't exactly shown a willingness to go through an opening in the stretch run and in a 14 horse field will wind up having a tough time in the stretch in the BC Juv Fillies. Has the look of the fast closing 2nd or 3rd place finisher that may be clearly the best but won't win.
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:43 AM
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Problem is she hasn't exactly shown a willingness to go through an opening in the stretch run and in a 14 horse field will wind up having a tough time in the stretch in the BC Juv Fillies. Has the look of the fast closing 2nd or 3rd place finisher that may be clearly the best but won't win.
Didn't she just win in a 12-horse field, without any significant traffic problems, from the 2 hole, on the very same track and distance as the BC?

Will 2 extra horses really make that much difference?
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:51 AM
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Didn't she just win in a 12-horse field, without any significant traffic problems, from the 2 hole, on the very same track and distance as the BC?

Will 2 extra horses really make that much difference?
Watch all her races, she hasn't got there in time everytime. Those two extra horses could easily be the difference.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:07 PM
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I think she just gets better over time. Heck, she's only run 4-5 times and she's a 3YO.

With that style she has every right to improve. Still think she's a monster.

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Old 09-29-2008, 12:13 PM
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Watch all her races, she hasn't got there in time everytime. Those two extra horses could easily be the difference.
I'm not sure I agree that she won't go through an opening. You probably won't ever see her try to because her jock likes to take the overland route. She just got beat in her debut on the head bob, looked like she hesitated as she caught the frontrunners.

In her 2nd start, a Grade 2 race, she was up a bit closer than in her previous. Was that of Smith's choosing or was she just a little sharper 2nd time out (maybe we can as the Wiz about that)? I don't know, but either way it seems to have blunted her stretch rally in the only race she was soundly defeated. Also, the stretchout in distance is in her favor.

Smith employed the sit back, loop the field, and inhale them down the lane approach (that he's very comfortable with) in the last pair and has two Grade 1 wins to show for it. I don't think he'll be changing that plan in the BC, so the only thing she'll have to overcome tripwise is moving a bit wide into the home stretch; her main obstacle will be running into a flat out faster filly if there is one.
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Old 09-29-2008, 12:17 PM
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I'm not sure I agree that she won't go through an opening.
I'm not saying she won't, I'm just saying she hasn't shown it yet and considering the likely odds in the BC I think she'll be a good horse to play against in multi-race bets even if she may be the best in the field on Pro-Ride.
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Old 09-29-2008, 04:23 PM
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Watch all her races, she hasn't got there in time everytime. Those two extra horses could easily be the difference.
One of those races was a 5/12 furlong race and she just missed by a nose. I actually didn't think she ran that well in the Sorrento, but she did still come rallying to finish 3rd. It's not just the distance, it seems it's the added racing that is helping her.
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Old 09-29-2008, 05:39 PM
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Racing over a turf course is great. Racing over a synthetic track is almost unwatchable.
Too bad poly gets essentially the same fatcharts that turf does.

So much for that theory.

It's dirt that's the anomaly.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:22 PM
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I think she just gets better over time. Heck, she's only run 4-5 times and she's a 3YO.

With that style she has every right to improve. Still think she's a monster.

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Old 09-29-2008, 08:42 PM
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Watch all her races, she hasn't got there in time everytime. Those two extra horses could easily be the difference.
If she runs like she ran Saturday, they could put 23 in against her and she'd still wn for fun. Right now, she reminds me of Halfbridled, and looked Saturday like a 2yo version of Zenyatta. She got to the front in a half dozen jumps with Smith only smooching at her. Once there, she was looking at the infield video screen and the stands while opening up lengths.
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She's set to be sold after the BC, which kind of makes me nervous. It just sounds so unsettled...........

http://www.drf.com/news/article/98644.html
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