8/9 (AP): Million; Beverly D.; Secretariat (Gr. I's)

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I think Red Rocks is going to the Sword Dancer.

I love the Arlington Million but where are the Europeans?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by CSC

I love the Arlington Million but where are the Europeans?

what are you talking about, we have two Group 1 winners coming this year, more then years past

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Scav

what are you talking about, we have two Group 1 winners coming this year, more then years past

I know of Mount Nelson the usual once a yr O'Brien Shipper, the other I never heard of....The De Cock usually races in Dubai or South Africa? That's it..

[Danzig]

you've never heard of archipenko? he was purchased from magnier and tabor-finished third on dubai world cup day, but was only a half length behind the winner. he's a pretty good horse.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you've never heard of archipenko? he was purchased from magnier and tabor-finished third on dubai world cup day, but was only a half length behind the winner. he's a pretty good horse.

It's the French horse I never heard of.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Arlington Million
1. Archipenko, de Kock, Shea, 2-1
2. Stream Cat, Arnold, Leparoux, 8-1
3. Spirit One (FR), Demercastel, Mendizabal, 10-1
4. Sudan (IRE), Frankel, Velazquez, 8-1
5. Cloudy's Knight, Kirby, Zimmerman, 20-1
6. Einstein (BRZ), Pitts, Albarado, 7-2
7. Mount Nelson, O'Brien, Murtagh, 5-2
8. Silverfoot, Stewart, Douglas, 20-1

Beverly D.
1. Dreaming of Anna, Catalano, Gomez, 7-2
2. Rosinka (IRE), Motion, Dominguez, 8-1
3. Precious Kitten, Frankel, Bejarano, 9-5
4. Mauralakana (FR), Clement, Desormeaux, 3-1
5. Ciao, Kirby, Velazquez, 30-1
6. Meribel, Pitts, Albarado, 20-1
7. Toque De Queda, Delzangles, Murtagh, 30-1
8. Communique, Arnold, Douglas, 12-1
9. Cicerole (FR), Rouget, Mendizabal, 6-1

Secretariat
1. Prime Realestate, Catalano, Fires, 10-1
2. Winchester, Weld, Douglas, 10-1
3. Plan, O'Brien, Murtagh, 5-2
4. Strait of Mewsina (IRE), Rivelli, Baird, 30-1
5. Snoose Goose, Robertson, Albarado, 20-1
6. Tizdejavu, Fox, Gomez, 6-5
7. Your Round, Hubley, Velazquez, 8-1
8. Sr. Henry, Stidham, Razo Jr., 12-1
9. Secret Getaway, Stidham, Wilson, 10-1

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[CSC]

Well...without looking at the past performances, I can surmise the 3 that will be bet hard in here are Archipenko, Mount Nelson and Einstein. I don't think the others have much of a chance at first glance, so as I said before I have never heard of the French horse but I hope he's a good one. He's got the right Jockey as he looks like the possible overlay in here.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by CSC

Well...without looking at the past performances, I can surmise the 3 that will be bet hard in here are Archipenko, Mount Nelson and Einstein. I don't think the others have much of a chance at first glance, so as I said before I have never heard of the French horse but I hope he's a good one. He's got the right Jockey as he looks like the possible overlay in here.

Every Euro I've talked to over here, including a couple from the Racing Post, say the French runner isn't much. He'll need the race of his life to win this and rates below plenty of the American runners.

If you want an angle, there's not much speed at all, and he and Sudan should be able to go slowly up front.....still doubt he hangs around past the eighth pole.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Every Euro I've talked to over here, including a couple from the Racing Post, say the French runner isn't much. He'll need the race of his life to win this and rates below plenty of the American runners.

If you want an angle, there's not much speed at all, and he and Sudan should be able to go slowly up front.....still doubt he hangs around past the eighth pole.

He worries me now seeing the race on paper. I still think Archipenko guns him down.

I will admit that I am surprised on how 'fast' Stream Cat is on the sheets. Still can't see him winning the Million though.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Scav

He worries me now seeing the race on paper. I still think Archipenko guns him down.

I will admit that I am surprised on how 'fast' Stream Cat is on the sheets. Still can't see him winning the Million though.

I think its Mt. Nelson, Stream Cat, or Archipenko...not in that order.

But, by the end of writing the race last night, I called Sudan the sleeper, because he seems quick enough on his very very best day, and I just don't see him getting pressed very much early.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think its Mt. Nelson, Stream Cat, or Archipenko...not in that order.

But, by the end of writing the race last night, I called Sudan the sleeper, because he seems quick enough on his very very best day, and I just don't see him getting pressed very much early.

So DAK is letting you 'write' the Million?

I don't like Mount Nelson at all. But my whole day will be on Archipenko's shoulders. He wins and I should have a good day, if not, bustola, until we go to the bar afterwards......

[CSC]

Sudan not so sneakily ran well in his last race, however I don't think he is as good as Einstein who will probably be the most well backed American hope, though I like the handicapping thought process of a Tin Man scenario reoccuring again in the Million...It's a good angle.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Scav

So DAK is letting you 'write' the Million?

I don't like Mount Nelson at all. But my whole day will be on Archipenko's shoulders. He wins and I should have a good day, if not, bustola, until we go to the bar afterwards......

Yea, the Million is done -- up on the website already too. Late night last night, but still not quite sure why I ended up with it, but I couldn't complain.

The only reason that I like Mount Nelson is from talking to some guys here yesterday. I try to never put too much stock in what a rider says about how easily he could have won, but Murtagh apparently 'had it the whole time,' and that nose win is misleading.....

Believe however much of that you want, but all the Euros I've talked to here in the last 24 hours seem to think he's the most likely to deny Archipenko, and it's hard for me to ignore them.

Still, the consensus is that Archipenko is the clear cut one to beat.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Yea, the Million is done -- up on the website already too. Late night last night, but still not quite sure why I ended up with it, but I couldn't complain.

The only reason that I like Mount Nelson is from talking to some guys here yesterday. I try to never put too much stock in what a rider says about how easily he could have won, but Murtagh apparently 'had it the whole time,' and that nose win is misleading.....

Believe however much of that you want, but all the Euros I've talked to here in the last 24 hours seem to think he's the most likely to deny Archipenko, and it's hard for me to ignore them.

Still, the consensus is that Archipenko is the clear cut one to beat.

Nice Job....real surprised that Joe didn't take the big three and give the scraps to you guys. Pretty cool that you will sway about a million dollars in the pools based on what you say with all the amatuers out there, you should have touted Silverfoot

This card might be one of the hardest cardest I have ever seen at Arlington. The first 7 races are very very competitive, should make for some live prices

[SentToStud]

What time do the Grade 1's start?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Yea, the Million is done -- up on the website already too. Late night last night, but still not quite sure why I ended up with it, but I couldn't complain.

The only reason that I like Mount Nelson is from talking to some guys here yesterday. I try to never put too much stock in what a rider says about how easily he could have won, but Murtagh apparently 'had it the whole time,' and that nose win is misleading.....

Believe however much of that you want, but all the Euros I've talked to here in the last 24 hours seem to think he's the most likely to deny Archipenko, and it's hard for me to ignore them.

Still, the consensus is that Archipenko is the clear cut one to beat.

Does anyone know how M. De Kock has done with NA shippers, my memory tells me he ships very infrequently to NA, I do remember he did ship one into for the Canadian International last year and that one didn't have an impact...

[Scav]

Originally Posted by CSC

Does anyone know how M. De Kock has done with NA shippers, my memory tells me he ships very infrequently to NA, I do remember he did ship one into for the Canadian International last year and that one didn't have an impact...

Irridence(?) came here last year and ran her eyeballs out, to finish 2nd, it was a very good run. This is all that I know.

I have talked to two people that have seen the horse, in the flesh here, and they are in love with him and they are praying for 9/5.......They think he will be even money but I tell them 2/1 is very logical here, with Mt. Nelson and then people betting Einstein off American form

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Scav

Irridence(?) came here last year and ran her eyeballs out, to finish 2nd, it was a very good run. This is all that I know.

I have talked to two people that have seen the horse, in the flesh here, and they are in love with him and they are praying for 9/5.......They think he will be even money but I tell them 2/1 is very logical here, with Mt. Nelson and then people betting Einstein off American form

Einstein will take a lot of money...Come on..it's Million Day..If Thong or Pantys ran, he'd be 3-1 off the name alone

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Scav

Irridence(?)

Irridescence.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by CSC

Does anyone know how M. De Kock has done with NA shippers, my memory tells me he ships very infrequently to NA, I do remember he did ship one into for the Canadian International last year and that one didn't have an impact...

0-for-2

Originally Posted by Scav

Nice Job....real surprised that Joe didn't take the big three and give the scraps to you guys.

Nah, he totally doesn't care, he just wants it done right. He didn't even take a single ONE of the big races. Though he did keep me from Cavan Thunder in the Hatoof......play of the day.