America's first Black President

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Mike

Usually it's in these rooms that I find the poster I've always agreed with on handicapping is actually an imbecilic, bigoted bastard who brings out the rage in me

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Do we have any other alternative other than Obama and Mccain? I would rather write in Howard Stern than the two we have a choice in. I agree with your comments about both of them and yes i do love NASCAR. Im not 65 so sorry to bust your bubble on my age.

We might see the biggest voter turnout since 1960...

I say we break that.
So at least you have clear choices.

Or you like the GWB v. Gore selection where
barely half of registered voters voted?

[hi_im_god]

i guess i'm one of the few feeling optimistic.

2 great candidates in my opinion. i voted for mccain in 2000 even though the race was over by then. what a different world we'd be living in if he hadn't been rove'd in s. carolina.

funny how people that actually served in a war don't feel the need to prove their manhood staring another.

and a guy who wants to change the dynamic where political opponents are unpatriotic enemies. that's truely horrible.

i don't care which one is elected.

we get an actual adult as president.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by The Bid

McCain isnt much but he will get my vote.

he'll get mine too. IF i had to pick between those two Democrats i'd probably not vote.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

he'll get mine too. IF i had to pick between those two Democrats i'd probably not vote.

but Darren..honestly..would you ever vote for a Dem?
As mentioned above, considering what we have had in the past, these are pretty good choices for both sides, IMO

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by GBBob

but Darren..honestly..would you ever vote for a Dem?
As mentioned above, considering what we have had in the past, these are pretty good choices for both sides, IMO

Bob, that avatar never gets old.

I read your post and then I find myself looking up at that photo and chuckling....every time.

Pure internet gold.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Bob, that avatar never gets old.

I read your post and then I find myself looking up at that photo and chuckling....every time.

Pure internet gold.

thnx Bigs..It seves it's purpose by distracting the reader from the drivel I often write..

and for that..I will be eternally grateful to....

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[GBBob]

[quote=DaHoss9698]That seems to be one of the big differences IMO between the Dems and Republicans. I know more than a few Hillary supporters that will not vote for Obama. But a lot of Republicans I know vote blindly for every Republican candidate, no matter who they are, what they stand for. I'm not saying every single Republican is like that, but they do seem to be a more loyal group than the Dems.


I'm not sure I get that, especially those that supported Hilary and now say they will vote for McCain instead. Weren't Obama's and Clinton's platforms generally the same? They are identical in social issues, very close fiscally and I think the things they disagreed about in the campaign were more of a need to have talking points than a real difference in policy. I can understand if you are a conservative and not voting for Obama, but I'm curious why a liberal who supported Hilary won't support Obama?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

carter said it would be the worst thing possible if hillary was vp...i tend to agree......

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

carter said it would be the worst thing possible if hillary was vp...i tend to agree......

I'm not sure Obama gets elected anyway, but I really don't think he does if Hilary is VP. She is just too polarizing and would motivate the far right who may not support/turn out to vote for McCain at this point

[The Bid]

Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Do we have any other alternative other than Obama and Mccain? I would rather write in Howard Stern than the two we have a choice in. I agree with your comments about both of them and yes i do love NASCAR. Im not 65 so sorry to bust your bubble on my age.

of course we don't! this is a democracy isn't it ???? LOL. what a pathetic joke. he we are starting wars for freedom and democracy. and here you get 2 choices dumb and dumber. i didn't say obama and the democrats were any good , its just that they are better than what we got now and its better than some out of touch 70 something year old man. listen to him, hes old and senile . his ideas are old. and here we are falling behind daily, calling ourselves the "greatest" country while the rest of the world quietly laughs at us . for one thing the old people got to go . i love my father God bless him but at 68 years old he and folks like him are the past . we are not keeping up. if it were up to me regular folks would be able to run for office. the whole thing is rigged. so you got to take the "best" of the worst. i could care less if the guy is black, hes got more brains left in his pinky then mccain has total. now mccain wants 10 debates, it will be a laugher. watch how many times he screws up. if people would wake up and give third and fourth parties a chance we could actually change things for the better . of course the parties in power and the media do the best to shut them out. democracy my a$$.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right

Comparing Obama and Farrakkan in any similar context is laughable Bid..come on...I'm not saying you're racist, but all your comparison's are race driven, it seems. Do you think he has another "secret" agenda he's advancing besides his platforms?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right

Obama is pretty much 1/2 at all int'l sports books to win it with Mccain at 3/2.

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/...ican-candidate

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right

Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.

thank you

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by GBBob

but Darren..honestly..would you ever vote for a Dem?
As mentioned above, considering what we have had in the past, these are pretty good choices for both sides, IMO

it would depend on who. a dem like harold ford i could vote for.
guess i'm a strange one, i registered republican when i was 18 (only rep. in the family) and for the most part always voted republican. i've worked for the city and been a union member for 20 yrs. and i can't buy into the union line of voting for the dems.

[TheSpyder]

I'm looking forward to the debates. I think they will be very interesting for the first time in many years. Debates with Bush were almost laughable, correction...they were very laughable. It will be nice to see two intellegent people up there swinging away...and that is where the election will be won or lost. This county is fu*ked up, the one that gives hope...instead of the last eight years of fear will win. Not sure who I will vote for because I'm proud to not be a Dem or a Rep.

Spyder

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

That seems to be one of the big differences IMO between the Dems and Republicans. I know more than a few Hillary supporters that will not vote for Obama. But a lot of Republicans I know vote blindly for every Republican candidate, no matter who they are, what they stand for. I'm not saying every single Republican is like that, but they do seem to be a more loyal group than the Dems.

In 2004 I can remember having a discussion with this idiot I work with. He kept going on and on about what a bad job he thought Bush was doing, etc. So after a few minutes I asked him if he planned on voting for him that November. Without hesitation he said of course. I was dumbfounded. I asked why and he said, I'm a Republican, I vote for my party. Then I asked him if he would vote for a Republican candidate whose platform was based on killing babies. His answer, of course, I'm a Republican, I vote for my party. It was eye opening to say the least.

Totally agree. The "pull one lever and you vote for one party"
was intended for Republicans.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.

Well said.