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02-05-2008, 10:20 PM
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kids that need corporal punishment? My Dad beat the hell out of me, he did not need Knight to do it. 
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02-05-2008, 10:36 PM
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02-06-2008, 11:05 AM
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I used to have the actual audio of this practice outburst and it was one of the funniest things I ever heard (edited for DT)
In a 1991 practice at Indiana, Knight lashed out at his team with the following tirade: "You don't wanna play, then I'm getting the f out of here. I mean, if you're not gonna cover Greg Graham; if you're just gonna let him drive by you; if the rest of you are gonna let him catch the ball outside the three second lane and drive all the way in here without one guy challenging him, then I'm leaving and you f'ing guys will run 'til you can't eat supper. Now I'm tired of this ****! I'm sick and fng tired of an 8-10 record! I'm fng tired of losing to Purdue! I'm not here to fk around this week! Now you may be, but I'm not! Now I'm gonna fg guarantee ya, that if we don't play up there Monday night, you aren't gonna believe the next four fcKng days! Now I am not here to get my ass beat on Monday. Now you better fkin' understand that right now. This is absolute fng bullshit! Now I'll fng run your ass right into the ground! I mean I'll fng run you, you'll think last night was a fng picnic! I had to sit around for a fng year with an 8-10 record in this fng league! And I mean you will not put me in that fng position again, or you will goddamn pay for it like you can't fng believe! Now you better get your head out of your ass!"[22]
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02-06-2008, 11:30 AM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yw7KijRfU-c
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One can be a good father and teach his son to become a man. Sometimes the job isn't complete by the time your son leaves your home to go to college at 18 years old. Maybe he has not quite become that man that you were trying to teach him to be, if so, it wouldn't hurt to hand him off to someone you know will watch out for him, make him do well in school (or not let him play) and truly care about his future while he is no longer in your home. I grew up with tough love from my Dad and my life has been pretty good. As Hooves and I discussed in the past, the kids today (18-25 yrs old) that come into my place of work looking for a job are unbelievably lazy, have zero tolerance for any constructive criticism and want more more more without giving anything in return.
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02-06-2008, 01:22 PM
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Even better
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02-06-2008, 01:26 PM
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that's good..very good but I like his speech better Jack..lol
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02-06-2008, 01:28 PM
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Political correctness is so stupid. If he did that in 2008, the world would come to a crashing halt
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02-06-2008, 04:01 PM
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quiet as it's kept coach k is NO freaking saint!
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Where's Tommy Lasorda when you need him?
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The lionization of these characters cracks me up. Who cares?? If a kid can handle the abuse go play for him. If a kid can't...go play for someone else. It is all really pretty simple. HE has some tyrannical tendencies but did some good things with basketball teams. I prefer to give the credit of his graduation rate to his kids however...not him. My estimation is that you had to be a pretty think skinned kid/self-confident individual to go play for him and subject yourself to that type of abuse and that was the reason for their success...not coach Knight. If he somehow influenced them positively then great. He was simply another cog in their road to success...not the reason for it. I prefer to give each individual credit for his/her own success...not some deity in a sweater. To me there is something inherently wrong with everyone emphasizing how much his ex-players love him?? Why?? Why do we have to do that? Did Wooden's ex-players like him?? Smith's?? K's?? Driessell's??
He is what he is. And I don't really care. My main beef is what I stated earlier...I credit his kids for their own success...but every time a Knight coached team played...it was always all about him...and not the kids playing for him. And in the end, it's the kids who made him...not the other way around as everyone tells us it has to be that way.
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02-07-2008, 11:37 AM
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I think it's also wrong to criticize him for things that the media does. To say that when his teams played, it was all about him is not something that's entirely his fault. Understand that the media has a lot to do with that. At the same time, when you have a coach that has been at one institution that long and has achieved the amount of success that he has, while players come and go every year, it's not surprising that a lot of the focus would be on him. He's the one constant. It's no different than Bobby Bowden or Joe Paterno or Coach K or Dean Smith or Lute Olsen. It's the same in high school too. Look at Bobby Hurley, Sr. in New Jersey or Morgan Wooten at DeMatha. Eddie Robinson at Grambling. I could go on and on. I hear a lot of people suggest that horse racing should do more to promote the jockeys and the trainers instead of just the horses. The reasoning being that the horses come and go each year but the people are the constants. In anything that takes teamwork, both parties deserve credit. A jockey can't win races if he never rides good horses. A pitcher can't win any games if his team can't score any runs for him. Tom Brady never had the kind of season he did until he got Randy Moss. So, I agree that the kids had something to do with Knight's success. But I think Knight had more to do with theirs. It's him that set up the system that works and brought in the right guys to form the type of group that could be successful. I think that the reason we bring up how his ex-players feel about him is to illustrate that what everyone see's on the outside is not anywhere close to what is really going on. Those other coaches you mentioned, guys like Wooden, Smith, and Coach K, they don't have the same reputation as Knight for being an ******* so it's not a surprise to anyone that their former players loved them.
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03-01-2008, 09:17 AM
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Now an analyst for ESPN? Are you kidding... He will probably be very good. But he is a walking talking contradiction. He hates the Media (call them whores etc..) and now he takes a job with ESPN... oh yes, he will reform them. An egomanic. I await George Bush to convert to Islam.
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George Bush is a closet Wiccan....
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