Chris Antley

[PPerfectfan]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Now Kent Desormeaux is smart?

OMG.....now I've heard everything.

Yeah ask Kotoshan how freaking smart he is!!!!!

[deltagulf]

he is another one who should be in h.o.f. no question.

[saratogabrit]

Do the current eligibilty rules for HOF membership rule Chris Antley out of consideration until about 2025 when he could be considered by the Historic Review Committee.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Desormaeux can school any jock riding today. He is one of the best Turf Jocks and is one of FEW jocks who uses thier brains and not instict when riding a horse.

Did you see Flashy Bull in the '06 Derby?

By the way, a debate about what Lukas would think about Antley getting in the Hall of Fame is one of the strangest and most pointless discussions I have seen in quite some time.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Did you see Flashy Bull in the '06 Derby?

Ooops. I just remembered that was Mike Smith and not KD. Sometimes I get my overrated jocks mixed up. I guess I should have said, "did you see Real Quiet in the '98 Belmont?" Although his ride in the '06 derby (on SNS) was less than impressive as well.

[slotdirt]

Was about to correct Miraja on the Mike Smith Path in the '06 Derby, but he self-corrected. Or, as Steve Haskin put it, Flashy Bull took the "ambulance path."

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Desormaeux can school any jock riding today. He is one of the best Turf Jocks and is one of FEW jocks who uses thier brains and not instict when riding a horse.

Other smart Jockeys include:

Jerry Bailey
Chris McCarron

Yes Antley should be in the HOF. IMO he was one of the best at riding a horse. As for Kent D. being so smart and schooling jocks of today, why is it he seems to forget where the finish line is and stands up too soon? Not the sign of a smart jockey. That said i still like him and bet him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Desormaeux can school any jock riding today. He is one of the best Turf Jocks and is one of FEW jocks who uses thier brains and not instict when riding a horse.

Other smart Jockeys include:

Jerry Bailey
Chris McCarron

i love your sense of humor.

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Desormaeux can school any jock riding today. He is one of the best Turf Jocks and is one of FEW jocks who uses thier brains and not instict when riding a horse.

Kent's just the guy I want standing up at the 1/16 pole.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Magnanimous

. Him never winning the triple crown assured me the racing Gods were indeed just.

Yeah, they really stuck it to him......he only won the Kentucky Derby four times, the Preakness five times and the Belmont Stakes four times. Not to mention his 17 BC wins.

Can you imagine what he would have done if the Gods weren't sticking it to him?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yeah, they really stuck it to him......he only won the Kentucky Derby four times, the Preakness five times and the Belmont Stakes four times. Not to mention his 17 BC wins.

Can you imagine what he would have done if the Gods weren't sticking it to him?

c'mon now btw. don't let facts get in the way of emotion.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Magnanimous

He didn't wear around a watch with a kentucky derby trophy on it. He wore around a watch with the 11 triple crown winners and the blank spot for the twelfth.

Winning the KD has been done by a ton of people, it is a nice thing. But only the triple crown winners are immortals.

Every top trainer in the business has one dream. To win the TC, not the derby.

You obviously don't know Lukas that well. Ask any former assistant and they will tell you the guy was/is obsessed with winning the TC.

I don't know him at all. I do, however, know that he has left an indelible mark of accomplishment in this game. For you to suggest that because he didn't have a TC winner he in some way failed is beyond absurd.

The man's accomplishments are simply incredible. He is certainly closer to being immortal than Billy Turner.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Magnanimous

He belongs in the HOF simply because he earned it. It is impossible to say he doesn't have the credentials and he never did anything to hurt the sport. In fact if you bet on him you knew you got a competitive guy on your horse, maybe too competitive.

As for Lukas, if you read Three Strides Before the Wire, it makes Lukas look like an insensitive jerk, which in my opinion he is. He is from that Bobby Knight school. Phonies if you ask me.

Lukas is now getting cheap claimers from Whitney and winning at around a 10% clip. Him never winning the triple crown assured me the racing Gods were indeed just.

i heard he used a long whip on azeri in training.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Magnanimous

As for Lukas, if you read Three Strides Before the Wire, it makes Lukas look like an insensitive jerk, which in my opinion he is. He is from that Bobby Knight school. Phonies if you ask me.

I wouldn't say he appeared insensitive, moreso, disappointed.