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Old 04-22-2007, 05:07 PM
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i think there is alot of quality info out there sheets , tgs ,drf/formulater. pace figs aio....but if you think about it..it can be really confusing to the medium player...by that i mean a guy that puts his time in reads every book in hopes of gaining an advantage, in the end i think hard lesssons on bad beats makes you a better player ..capping great and betting bad ruins more people than enron...lets say you have a horse you like ALOT..he goes off at 5-1 and rolls for the win...did you..

a/ play him to win
b/ play him in exotics..ext
c bet him to show
d dump on him as your play of the day..use that horse as the light of god betting wise ..key him in pick 3s 4s wheel the ext tri super.. just back your opinion to the fullest..... the person who chose d will buy far get the most out of his betting buck you may get hit 7 out out of 10 times but those three times you will make more than the losers.....grab some sack aka BALLS and repect your opinion enough to use the advantage you percieve to get payed at this game.. i know im no rocket scientist.. but i hope this will help dters get the point.. hooves..maybee some of the pros like andy and steve can chime in...

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Old 04-22-2007, 05:27 PM
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Hooves,

We see alot of great picks out of you. Tell me, do you make good money playing the ponies? Do you do it for a living? What would you say your ROI is? I know you're far better than me at this sport.

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Old 04-22-2007, 05:31 PM
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Hooves, you make a good point. But the problem is bankroll. How much of your day's bankroll will you put on that horse? For example, you start with $1000, the horse you are talking about is in the 2nd race, how much should you wager?
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:32 PM
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Hooves,

We see alot of great picks out of you. Tell me, do you make good money playing the ponies? Do you do it for a living? What would you say your ROI is? I know you're far better than me at this sport.

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ive hightend my income for along time..but this is not about me..steve , andy ect could do this and do for a living..i just want recreational betters .to back the best play of the day for them..and reap the benifits of getting it right..
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:43 PM
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that race or the race you like should be tied in ..in all plays max your advantage..id say with 1000 buck is high for the rec player..

300 win
200 ect key x 2 ,,,,1 key with 3/4. =.400

thats 700 in
tri key 50 buck key 1 over 3/4 100 bucks
pick 3 and 4 15 or 20 x if the light shines on you this day be ready to soak it in...

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Old 04-22-2007, 05:49 PM
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I just chose $1000 because it's an even number, and once again this is the entire day's bankroll.. so let me get this straight...are you saying that one should use his entire bankroll for the day on this one race? Or does it come out to approx $800 or $900?
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Old 04-22-2007, 05:56 PM
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im saying that you should

a. pound your best play of the day
b tie that horse in exotics
c be smart if this is your best play of the day why not take full advantage of it..no matter what the race is..the other bets are action bets..real players that do this for a living dont make action bets..they may wait in the wings till they get what they think is a play..then like sharks to blood they destroy that horse ..in the three 4 and exotics..max ing out the advantage..

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Old 04-23-2007, 06:35 AM
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that race or the race you like should be tied in ..in all plays max your advantage..id say with 1000 buck is high for the rec player..

300 win
200 ect key x 2 ,,,,1 key with 3/4. =.400

thats 700 in
tri key 50 buck key 1 over 3/4 100 bucks
pick 3 and 4 15 or 20 x if the light shines on you this day be ready to soak it in...
One of the things I like about hooves's advice here is that he is advocating more than just putting the majority of your money on your play of the day (although obviously he is advocating that as well). He is also saying that if you really like a horse you should play him multiple ways. You should (depending on the card and the odds) single him in pick3s and pick4s, you should key him in exotics, AND you should bet the horse to win. How many times does it happen where your play-of-the-day goes off at 3/1, wins, and you didn't have a straight win bet on him at all because you only had him in the pick3 and keyed in a trifecta? Then the other horses screw it up for you, and you think, "Damn, why didn't I also bet that horse to win?"
This is good advice, I think. Not only should you maximize the dollar amounts you play on a horse, but you should also maximize your chances of winning if your key horse does what you think he will do.
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