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[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Here another dissing of the President by that Ba$tard Beck !! Has he no heart !!

http://www.foxnewsinsider.com/2011/0...es-of-america/

Beck was surprisingly kind, talking about the man he's publicly labeled a racist with a deep-seated hatred of white people.

But, but, but ... what does Reince Priebus think? ~

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Here another dissing of the President by that Ba$tard Beck !! Has he no heart !!

http://www.foxnewsinsider.com/2011/0...es-of-america/

Most of the things said about Beck are not close to being true. It's to keep people from hearing what he has to say. It might open up their eyes just a little. I have never heard a call to arms from Beck. Just the opposite actually , he calls for non-violence.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sorta like Michelle Malkin being unbiased as you will see on the right, like the stuff you posted. That was the point

At least much of the stuff Media Matters lists is in court records.

Please post the court records where Beck caused some idiot to attempt an assassination. That was your point wasn't it? What part of Malkins editorial was untrue? It was an opinion piece Riot.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Riot

Beck was surprisingly kind, talking about the man he's publicly labeled a racist with a deep-seated hatred of white people.

But, but, but ... what does Reince Priebus think? ~

I love you too Riot!!

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[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by merasmag

my head hurts
republicans are not only the backbone but the bane of horseracing
what did the t-shirts SAY?

I hate Republicans! If it weren't for Democrats I would never vote for one!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Most of the things said about Beck are not close to being true. It's to keep people from hearing what he has to say. It might open up their eyes just a little. I have never heard a call to arms from Beck. Just the opposite actually , he calls for non-violence.

he calls for non-violence? hmm....


Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck said he was "thinking about killing [filmmaker] Michael Moore" and pondered whether "I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it," before concluding: "No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?"

From the May 17 broadcast of The Glenn Beck Program:

BECK: Hang on, let me just tell you what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus -- band -- Do, and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, "Yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore," and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize, "Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death." And you know, well, I'm not sure.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he calls for non-violence? hmm....


Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck said he was "thinking about killing [filmmaker] Michael Moore" and pondered whether "I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it," before concluding: "No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?"

From the May 17 broadcast of The Glenn Beck Program:

BECK: Hang on, let me just tell you what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus -- band -- Do, and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, "Yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore," and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize, "Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death." And you know, well, I'm not sure.

It was tongue in cheek...

everyone needs to lighten the fucl< up..on all sides !!!!

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he calls for non-violence? hmm....


Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck said he was "thinking about killing [filmmaker] Michael Moore" and pondered whether "I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it," before concluding: "No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?"

From the May 17 broadcast of The Glenn Beck Program:

BECK: Hang on, let me just tell you what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus -- band -- Do, and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, "Yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore," and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize, "Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death." And you know, well, I'm not sure.

I had close relatives running for their lives and watching their friends die at too young of an age at Columbine. Moore is on my not too cool list after that flick. Thanks anyway. I don't want to see any harm come to him though, freedom of speech trumps all. I believe that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Most of the things said about Beck are not close to being true. It's to keep people from hearing what he has to say. It might open up their eyes just a little. I have never heard a call to arms from Beck. Just the opposite actually , he calls for non-violence.

You mean this week he "calls for non-violence". Otherwise, you mean like when he joked about poisoning Nancy Pelosi? Or talked about wanting to kill Michael Moore? Or told people they may have to take up arms?

Glenn Beck is a television and radio shock-jock. He plays to his audience with theatre.

[Riot]

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Please post the court records where Beck caused some idiot to attempt an assassination. That was your point wasn't it?

Huh? I never said that. No, that wasn't my point. Little paranoid, there? However, if you read the bottom of the Media Matters site I posted, it quotes court records with the perpetrators mentioning Glenn Beck as a contributor to the perpetrator's plan of violence.

Does that make Glenn personally responsible? No. But Beck should stop advising people to harm others. Like killing Tides. That didn't work too well for him, did it?

Like Bill O'Reilly calling Tiller a baby killer repeatedly, and saying someone should take him out. Well, someone finally did, Bill. The guy was shot dead at his church.

What part of Malkins editorial was untrue? It was an opinion piece Riot.

Yes, I know it was an opinion piece. I never said any of it was untrue. I simply posted an "opinion piece" from the "other side". You really didn't like that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

It was tongue in cheek...

everyone needs to lighten the fucl< up..on all sides !!!!

It may have been "tongue in cheek", but read the Media Matters link I posted, down at the bottom, where three people arrested for threatening violence say listening to Glenn Beck talk about it influenced them. The crazy latch onto anything.

Talking about killing people you don't like, politically, for ratings, is wrong. It's creates an environment where violence becomes socially acceptable. Even Sarah Palin said, in her famous last speech of her political career two days ago, that words can cause violence (about the only thing I agreed with in her victim screed). Palin should know, she got a whole lot of people angry and worked up last August over imaginary "death panels" - a lie she told to get people angry and worked up.

It's not a joke. We don't need to lighten the fucl< up - some need to tone down talking about killing people.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I had close relatives running for their lives and watching their friends die at too young of an age at Columbine. Moore is on my not too cool list after that flick. Thanks anyway. I don't want to see any harm come to him though, freedom of speech trumps all. I believe that.

No. Freedom of speech does not trump all. This is a democracy. Other people have rights to freedom that are greater than your mouth. That is the point. Freedom of speech doesn't trump being able to yell "fire" in a theatre. Neither does it trump terroristic threatening (as several have learned just this past week after they were arrested)

[Riot]

Black GOP Official Resigns, Citing Arizona Tea Party Threats

The sole black Republican Party district chairman in Arizona resigned from his post in the wake of Saturday's shooting, citing threats from the Tea Party faction and concerns for his family's safety, The Arizona Republic first reported.

Republican District 20 Chairman Anthony Miller was not the only party official to resign following the shooting that killed six and wounded 14 others, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and a federal judge.

But Miller had been an especially dedicated campaigner for the GOP, and said he only stepped down in the face of "constant verbal attacks" and other forms of intimidation.

"I wasn't going to resign but decided to quit after what happened Saturday," he said. "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone."

Miller, 43, told HuffPost he decided to resign after his wife expressed concern for their safety. Miller had been the target of heavy criticism from Arizona Tea Partyers, in part because he worked on Sen. John McCain's campaign last fall. (The Tea Partyers favored McCain's opponent, J.D. Hayworth.)

But the attacks also took on a racial hue. One critic referred to him derogatorily as "McCain's boy," Miller said. Other language was even less ambiguous. At an event in Lake Havasu City, Ariz., Miller said someone called out, "There's Anthony, get a rope.".

At Arizona Republic and Huffington Post

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Riot

It may have been "tongue in cheek", but read the Media Matters link I posted, down at the bottom, where three people arrested for threatening violence say listening to Glenn Beck talk about it influenced them. The crazy latch onto anything.

Talking about killing people you don't like, politically, for ratings, is wrong. It's creates an environment where violence becomes socially acceptable. Even Sarah Palin said, in her famous last speech of her political career two days ago, that words can cause violence (about the only thing I agreed with in her victim screed). Palin should know, she got a whole lot of people angry and worked up last August over imaginary "death panels" - a lie she told to get people angry and worked up.

It's not a joke. We don't need to lighten the fucl< up - some need to tone down talking about killing people.

And who will decide what is right or wrong or if the tone is right? you Riot?

Is it only right if it's what you believe? Perhaps I like to listen to what Glenn Beck says or Howard Stern or Steve Byk? Where does it end Riot - where you say it ends? Where you say the tone is right?

No thanks Riot No thanks !!

I am gonna have to hit you with a gfy.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by merasmag

im gonna havta get clyde if u guys dnstfu

I could load my gun with a gfy for you too


Does the "load my gun" make you want to kill someone?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

And who will decide what is right or wrong or if the tone is right? you Riot?

Is it only right if it's what you believe? Perhaps I like to listen to what Glenn Beck says or Howard Stern or Steve Byk? Where does it end Riot - where you say it ends? Where you say the tone is right?

No thanks Riot No thanks !!

I am gonna have to hit you with a gfy.

And I'm gonna have to throw your silly immature gfy back in your face. You make the additional point that some people apparently don't have the intelligence to debate issues without turning to personal attack.

Society decides what's right or wrong. It always has. Talking about killing people in the public eye, for ratings, as a joke, is wrong. Society is all over that right now. You are free to keep defending it.

I've never seen anybody say you can't listen to Glenn Beck. But if he wants to talk about killing people, he shouldn't get too upset when his fellow Americans exercise their freedom of speech and call him out publically to be a dangerous, violence-inciting jackass, and threaten his job because they don't want to hear that crap on the airwaves about racists, and killing people, and "someone ought to go blow them away". Freedom of speech goes both ways.

The overwhelming theme of Sarah Palin's 7-minute victim screed was that she really, really doesn't like being on the receiving end of her very own political methods. It was hilarious. The far right hysterics can dish it out, but damn, they can't take their own medicine.

[geeker2]

it was tongue in cheek - like Glenn Beck

everybody needs to lighten up ...see what I mean

[Danzig]

it was tongue and cheek is your defense?

problem is with his talk of killing moore, much like things on here, you lose much in translation. i don't listen to glenn beck, nor will i. i just know i saw something written about what he'd said. when it was mentioned on here that beck was anti-violence, i googled the story. now, explain to me how anyone who reads that would know it wasn't serious? that's a rhetorical question, as you can't explain it.

it's funny that either side is calling out the other, asking for kinder and gentler. politicians like nothing more than to accuse their opponent of being everything short of the devil incarnate. then, pols like to try to take the high road in denouncing the other party. anyone saying that only the left-or right- needs to clean up their acts really has blinkers on.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it was tongue and cheek is your defense?

problem is with his talk of killing moore, much like things on here, you lose much in translation. i don't listen to glenn beck, nor will i. i just know i saw something written about what he'd said. when it was mentioned on here that beck was anti-violence, i googled the story. now, explain to me how anyone who reads that would know it wasn't serious? that's a rhetorical question, as you can't explain it.

it's funny that either side is calling out the other, asking for kinder and gentler. politicians like nothing more than to accuse their opponent of being everything short of the devil incarnate. then, pols like to try to take the high road in denouncing the other party. anyone saying that only the left-or right- needs to clean up their acts really has blinkers on.

are you sure you're from Arkansas?


kidding of course. I'll be in Hot Springs next week, can't wait!

[Riot]

Both sides? Yes - because Keith Olbermann and Barney Frank are well-known for calling for people to be killed, for saying our government may have to be overthrown, and calling for citizens to be armed and dangerous

I agree with you that anybody who makes with the violent rhetoric (hey, I remember the late 1960's) is wrong. But right now, in our world, who is speaking violently is very clear. It's not "one side or the other", it's not even "one side", it is certain specific factions on the political scene. We all know who they are, and we can all watch and see if they change anything at all.