facepalm of the day

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I agree with you.

That said, as I pointed out Christians protesting abortion clinics using signs or their votes aren't radical. Just as the Muslim baker who refuses to cook pork isn't radical.

However the ten events pointed out by Salon of radical Christianity and White Supremacy over a period of 28 YEARS pale in comparison to ten events I could site of radical Islamism occurring over the past 28 MONTHS.

BTW are Muslims/Christians who castrate their women, or kill their women to save honor, or beat their women for driving, or throw gays off roofs, or stone gays in a public square or call for the annihilation of Israel, radical or is it just cultural?

http://www.thegailygrind.com/2014/08...nts-disowning/

So you argument has now morphed into one side is worse than the other? By going there you are implicitly condoning the actions of one side. Be it 1 event or 100 events I despise both.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://www.thegailygrind.com/2014/08...nts-disowning/

So you argument has now morphed into one side is worse than the other? By going there you are implicitly condoning the actions of one side. Be it 1 event or 100 events I despise both.

I am condoning no such thing as they are all evil actions. Just pointing out one seems engaged in far more and more recent evil actions than the other.

There was a murder in my town about 25 years ago and there have been 44 murders in Milwaukee so far this year. Should the police focus on my town equally as they do with Milwaukee?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://www.thegailygrind.com/2014/08...nts-disowning/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7d1sTDNts

Is the crowd watching and doing nothing radical?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7d1sTDNts

Is the crowd watching and doing nothing radical?

Dell, I share your revulsion regarding the crimes against human decency whenever they occur in other countries, in other cultures....I'm sure Danzig and others feel the same. There is so much ugliness, so many horrors in this world of ours. The issue though is that we live in America, and abuses here be they relatively minor when compared to those elsewhere in the world are still affronts to basic fairness and equality. The reality is that as citizens of the U.S. there is little we can do compared to our responsibility to demand change here. I will never shrink from condemning inhuman behavior wherever it occurs, but I feel strongly that we must look to solve our own problems first. Hypocrisy is defined in the dictionary as "a pretending to be what one is not, or to feel what one does not feel; esp., a pretense of virtue, piety etc." It's way to easy to focus on the shortcomings (no matter how vile) of others while using same to ignore our own. Yes, we must always decry the actions of monsters throughout the world but at the same time we must do everything possible to ensure equality here.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Dell, I share your revulsion regarding the crimes against human decency whenever they occur in other countries, in other cultures....I'm sure Danzig and others feel the same. There is so much ugliness, so many horrors in this world of ours. The issue though is that we live in America, and abuses here be they relatively minor when compared to those elsewhere in the world are still affronts to basic fairness and equality. The reality is that as citizens of the U.S. there is little we can do compared to our responsibility to demand change here. I will never shrink from condemning inhuman behavior wherever it occurs, but I feel strongly that we must look to solve our own problems first. Hypocrisy is defined in the dictionary as "a pretending to be what one is not, or to feel what one does not feel; esp., a pretense of virtue, piety etc." It's way to easy to focus on the shortcomings (no matter how vile) of others while using same to ignore our own. Yes, we must always decry the actions of monsters throughout the world but at the same time we must do everything possible to ensure equality here.

[OldDog]

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...time-katherine

Bahahaha!

Henceforth I wish to be addressed as Mi Amore OldDog The Enormous.

Or simply " "

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by OldDog

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...time-katherine

Bahahaha!

Henceforth I wish to be addressed as Mi Amore OldDog The Enormous.

Or simply " "

Except Dog is MAN's best friend and hence sexist.

And why is Fresh-MAN offensive and fe-MALE and wo-MAN not?

How in the world did the 'greatest generation' live with themselves much more accomplish all that they did?

Going forward lets refer to everyone and everything by the same name,
f-u-c-k-e-d-u-p!!!

[Danzig]

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/michele-b...g-thanks-obama

[jms62]

Originally Posted by OldDog

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...time-katherine

Bahahaha!

Henceforth I wish to be addressed as Mi Amore OldDog The Enormous.

Or simply " "

As ****ed up as things are I am beginning to think it is better being an OldDog than a Puppy.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

As ****ed up as things are I am beginning to think it is better being an OldDog than a Puppy.

puppy

Gay slang, a boy (gay or straight) who is too young to have sex (because it's not legal, he's under 18).

Steve's a puppy, you can't **** him because he's jail-bait.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...y&defid=938709

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/michele-b...g-thanks-obama

This woman is wacked, pure and simple! We laugh at some weirdo who proclaims that a spaceship is coming to rescue "true believers" prior to the end of the world, shake our heads when some insane narcissist commands his followers to drink poisoned Kool-ade but so called "Christians" take this flake seriously?! She might get some votes from Westboro Baptist but otherwise, she should be out of politics. We will always have a large population of squirrels in this country because we are teeming with nuts!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

This woman is wacked, pure and simple! We laugh at some weirdo who proclaims that a spaceship is coming to rescue "true believers" prior to the end of the world, shake our heads when some insane narcissist commands his followers to drink poisoned Kool-ade but so called "Christians" take this flake seriously?! She might get some votes from Westboro Baptist but otherwise, she should be out of politics. We will always have a large population of squirrels in this country because we are teeming with nuts!

'obediance brings about his blessings'
whatever
as a poster i saw the other day said, the people who wrote the bible didn't know where the sun went at night, but we are supposed to believe and follow all that they wrote?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

'obediance brings about his blessings'
whatever
as a poster i saw the other day said, the people who wrote the bible didn't know where the sun went at night, but we are supposed to believe and follow all that they wrote?

I have no argument with any of the world's "major" religions, especially those believing in a supreme being (witchcraft holds that all are paths to the divine). The problem is not in the belief system but in the blind acceptance of individual quotations often times themselves products of ignorance and superstition at the expense of the basic message. We don't stone folks to death in this country and decry other cultures for still doing so even though the bible can be read as commanding such action. Yet folks steadfastly hold to ancient beliefs of "morality" when it avoids acceptance of those different from self. Professionally I have dealt with many folks who exchanged an addiction to drugs or alcohol or sex for what can only be termed an addiction to fundamentalist religion. For them, they have merely exchanged one crutch for another and they are not alone. My point is that religion can be the cornerstone of one's life but it cannot be one's master demanding blind obedience at the expense of free will and thought.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I have no argument with any of the world's "major" religions, especially those believing in a supreme being (witchcraft holds that all are paths to the divine). The problem is not in the belief system but in the blind acceptance of individual quotations often times themselves products of ignorance and superstition at the expense of the basic message. We don't stone folks to death in this country and decry other cultures for still doing so even though the bible can be read as commanding such action. Yet folks steadfastly hold to ancient beliefs of "morality" when it avoids acceptance of those different from self. Professionally I have dealt with many folks who exchanged an addiction to drugs or alcohol or sex for what can only be termed an addiction to fundamentalist religion. For them, they have merely exchanged one crutch for another and they are not alone. My point is that religion can be the cornerstone of one's life but it cannot be one's master demanding blind obedience at the expense of free will and thought.

again.
my cousin is one of those.
i like some of the messages in the bible, especially the ones about not throwing stones, not judging.
but, others think they're perfectly suited to doing just that. they also tend to ignore the part about 'whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers...'
too often people use religion as a tool to bludgeon others with. they use it to excuse violence, oppression, they use old teachings to deny people (typically these days women, back in the day it was the slaves here in this country) any education. centuries ago it was in europe, in the 1800's it was here, and currently it's mainly seen in islamic countries. hell, the phillipines, with rampant poverty and huge families, just recently legalized birth control-which the RCC fought tooth and nail.
it makes no sense to me.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...oards_and.html

'theories'

obviously the ouachita school superintendent doesn't know what that word means.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...oards_and.html

'theories'

obviously the ouachita school superintendent doesn't know what that word means.

Nor do you.

Theory
def.
A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something.

Supposition
synonyms: belief, surmise, idea, notion, suspicion, conjecture, speculation, inference, theory, hypothesis, postulation, guess, feeling, hunch, assumption, presumption .

[dellinger63]

Here's one from Slate that makes the facepalm list.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ast_lives.html

[somerfrost]

Not getting into semantics, the issue when this debate comes up is what is appropriate to teach in a science class and what is an invasion of religious doctrine into academia. I have no problem if a school wants to offer a class teaching the theory of creationism but I do have a huge problem when evolution is discarded in a science class in favor of a religious belief which by definition is not subject to scientific scrutiny. If one believes that the Christian god created all including mankind that's one's right but it is a religious BELIEF not science.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Not getting into semantics, the issue when this debate comes up is what is appropriate to teach in a science class and what is an invasion of religious doctrine into academia. I have no problem if a school wants to offer a class teaching the theory of creationism but I do have a huge problem when evolution is discarded in a science class in favor of a religious belief which by definition is not subject to scientific scrutiny. If one believes that the Christian god created all including mankind that's one's right but it is a religious BELIEF not science.

creationism isn't a theory.
it kills me when they say 'teach facts' when in fact they don't want to teach facts.

the scotus ruled that they can't teach religion in science class, but some continue to try to find clever ways to get around that ruling.
and then we wonder why other countries are passing us in science. probably because we have too many school districts who don't understand what a scientific Theory is-so how can they teach what they don't understand? or what they deny, when evolution is as proven as something can be.
besides, evolution explains the diversity of life-not how it began. creationism isn't science, the bible isn't a science book. when someone says 'we didn't descend from no monkeys', they're right. but they don't know why they're right.
these school people are entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. it's too bad they refuse to teach science in science. the law should be repealed.
this is one of the things i do have an issue with regarding religion. it's one thing to wish to go to church, to worship as you choose...but quite another to force your beliefs on an entire school full of other peoples children, and break the law in the process...and then they get angry when they get called out for it, because they think they're doing nothing wrong.

[dellinger63]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...x-tourism.html

WTF?