The Best turf/dirt horse in the last 50 years?

hondo · #1 10-23-2013, 07:59 PM

Secretariat -male

Waya -female

randallscott35 · #2 10-23-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hondo

Secretariat -male

Waya -female

You gathered that from Secretariat's one (if I remember correctly) turf race in his career?

hondo · #3 10-23-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

You gathered that from Secretariat's one (if I remember correctly) turf race in his career?

He actually was 2 for 2 on he turf winning the Man o War and The Candian International his last 2 races. His Man o War set the track record

randallscott35 · #4 10-23-2013, 08:12 PM

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He actually was 2 for 2 on he turf winning the Man o War and The Candian International his last 2 races. His Man o War set the track record

Ah yes, forgot the Man O War....though 2 starts, I'm not sure is enough to talk about about as the best dual surface horse....IN a way Wise Dan is a better example with Syn and Turf as the 2 surfaces.

blackthroatedwind · #5 10-23-2013, 08:59 PM

Secretariat may have been better on turf than dirt. At the very least he was an all-time great talent on both.

randallscott35 · #6 10-23-2013, 09:10 PM

That seems to be the prevailing wisdom which doesn't make it correct. With 2 starts on it we'll never know.

blackthroatedwind · #7 10-23-2013, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

That seems to be the prevailing wisdom which doesn't make it correct. With 2 starts on it we'll never know.

No, we do know. You can keep pretending you somehow know better....but you don't.

#8 10-23-2013, 11:08 PM

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That seems to be the prevailing wisdom which doesn't make it correct. With 2 starts on it we'll never know.

We can only judge by what we saw. He ran twice on the turf and was a BEAST both times.

How can you say we'll never know?

Danzig · #9 10-24-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

That seems to be the prevailing wisdom which doesn't make it correct. With 2 starts on it we'll never know.

but affirmed success did enough for you to include him in this thread?

dylbert · #10 10-23-2013, 11:02 PM

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Secretariat may have been better on turf than dirt. At the very least he was an all-time great talent on both.

Well said. I believe both of these races are posted on YouTube. Very powerful performances.

One of my favorite 'what ifs' in sports is, "What if Secretariat had run in Arc and won."