michelle wie

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Scav

What is grounding a club? Like she used it like a cane or something.

I have been known to fall in a sandtrap or two and I always use my clubs to get me in and out.

Anytime your ball is in a water hazard or bunker, you can't ground your club inside the hazard or bunker.

In your case, once you finally get the ball out of the bunker on your 4th attempt, then you can ground your club.

[herkhorse]

[Scav]

Originally Posted by GPK

Anytime your ball is in a water hazard or bunker, you can't ground your club inside the hazard or bunker.

In your case, once you finally get the ball out of the bunker on your 4th attempt, then you can ground your club.

GFY. I am decent in the bunkers up here.

The bunkers in Florida were ridiculous, it was like hitting off of dust it was so 'fine' and thin. Up here you gotta smoke the ball out of traps for it to go anywhere.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

Anytime your ball is in a water hazard or bunker, you can't ground your club inside the hazard or bunker.




In your case, once you finally get the ball out of the bunker on your 4th attempt, then you can ground your club.

kev wasn't the rule infraction after the shot ?? the club was grounded after she hit the ball and was trying to get out of the water hazard (still a penalty though)

[GPK]

Originally Posted by gales0678

kev wasn't the rule infraction after the shot ?? the club was grounded after she hit the ball and was trying to get out of the water hazard (still a penalty though)

The ball only moved a few inches out of the water in into the rough, but still inside the hazard line. Had the ball cleared the hazard line, she could have grounded her club without penalty.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

The ball only moved a few inches out of the water in into the rough, but still inside the hazard line. Had the ball cleared the hazard line, she could have grounded her club without penalty.

what if that was old molly in the lady's member guest who was 75 at the time , assuming there was a tape that you as the club pro could look at , and saw that while the ball remained inside the hazrd , the old lady (unlike a young spray wie) would have lost her balance and fell into the water without the aid of the club touching the ground .... in that case couldn't the exception to grounding the club be used and the women not penalized?

i agree with the wie decision , she wasn't losing her balance

[GPK]

Originally Posted by gales0678

what if that was old molly in the lady's member guest who was 75 at the time , assuming there was a tape that you as the club pro could look at , and saw that while the ball remained inside the hazrd , the old lady (unlike a young spray wie) would have lost her balance and fell into the water without the aid of the club touching the ground .... in that case couldn't the exception to grounding the club be used and the women not penalized?

i agree with the wie decision , she wasn't losing her balance

1. Old Molly wouldn't have gone in the hazard and played that shot.

2. Rules are rules. They apply to everyone.

I had a woman that was a member at a course I worked at for years not speak to me for a very long time because I DQ'd her and her 2 playing partners from a tournament

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

1. Old Molly wouldn't have gone in the hazard and played that shot.

2. Rules are rules. They apply to everyone.

I had a woman that was a member at a course I worked at for years not speak to me for a very long time because I DQ'd her and her 2 playing partners from a tournament

kev , then why is the exception there in the rule book , most infractions there are no cameras there , if someone was in a bunker and the ball was plugged up near the lip , they took a hard swing , and their 1st reaction was not oh where is the ball , their 1st reaction was a reflexive action of putting the club into the sand because they didn't want to go tumbling down , i have seen this time and time again with older people - when would the exception apply is my question?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by gales0678

kev , then why is the exception there in the rule book , most infractions there are no cameras there , if someone was in a bunker and the ball was plugged up near the lip , they took a hard swing , and their 1st reaction was not oh where is the ball , their 1st reaction was a reflexive action of putting the club into the sand because they didn't want to go tumbling down , i have seen this time and time again with older people - when would the exception apply is my question?

I'm fairly certain the bunker exception has to do with the golfer not testing the surface of the sand when a situation like that occurs.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by GPK

1. Old Molly wouldn't have gone in the hazard and played that shot.

2. Rules are rules. They apply to everyone.

I had a woman that was a member at a course I worked at for years not speak to me for a very long time because I DQ'd her and her 2 playing partners from a tournament

Nice to see someone here enforce the rules of golf. Im sure Scav's think less of you now since you enforced the rules of golf.

[gales0678]

woody austin - did the same shot a couple of yrs ago

he put on the rain suit and pants , and got the ball out , lost his balance and got soaked , but no 2 shot penalty

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Nice to see someone here enforce the rules of golf. Im sure Scav's think less of you now since you enforced the rules of golf.

I don't know...Scavs knows an awful lot of **** about me that very few people do. Hard for him to think much less of me

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by GPK

1. Old Molly wouldn't have gone in the hazard and played that shot.

2. Rules are rules. They apply to everyone.

I had a woman that was a member at a course I worked at for years not speak to me for a very long time because I DQ'd her and her 2 playing partners from a tournament

Oh please......you have to tell us what rule and why?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Oh please......you have to tell us what rule and why?

Rule 11-4b

Funny ending to the story. As I said, the lady didn't care for me for a long time. I used to play a lot of golf with her husband. Years after I left that job, I ran into them at an OTB in Chesapeake. Come to find out, they had a huge love of horses too. We all became pretty good friends in the end.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Oh please......you have to tell us what rule and why?

Doc,
I'll tell you a good Dq story. I was playing in a couple's championship and after the round the pro asked me if I saw what the people in my foursome did in the trap on #5. I was standing next to the green side bunker and the other team in my foursome evidently touched the sand with the rake in the bunker. The team 190 yards away claimed that they were testing the consistency of the sand and wanted the couple DQ'ed. The women was such an awful golfer that she couldn't have cheated if she wanted to. I told the pro I did not see the infraction and I did not believe it occurred. After the round the couple that complained accused me of covering for them. My wife and I played with the complaining couple in the 2nd round of the tournament and they watched every move I made. I was so irritated I shot my career low round and my wife and I won the tournament. They still don't talk to me.