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Old 06-25-2009, 06:54 PM
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A 40% shooter is good, hardly great. Let's be clear about that. I wanted to look up something real quick. Back when the Bulls won their six titles, I wanted to see what the % was of the guy taking the most 3's besides Jordan.

1991-Tucker 41%
1992-Hodges 38%
1993-Hodges 38%
1996-Pippen 37%
1997-Pippen 37%
1998-Pippen 32%

West's 40% is about in line for what a decent/good shooter will hit. I get Sniper's point though. The percentage is at 40 for him because of LeBron. But what Sniper didn't point out correctly the first time but did fix later is that West is not normally a 40% shooter so the LeBron factor is what improved him. If West was a normal 40% shooter, then Sniper would be correct in expecting him to be up even higher with James.
The vast majority of three pointers taken are undefended regardless of the team, composition of the team or any other factor. Shooting 40% is shooting 40%, period.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:24 PM
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The vast majority of three pointers taken are undefended regardless of the team, composition of the team or any other factor. Shooting 40% is shooting 40%, period.
Not even close to true. Orlando didn't get anywhere close to the same kinds of shots against the Lakers over the last three games as they got in the first two or against Cleveland. A lot of their shots were contested and those same 40% shooters couldn't shoot as well. If you don't think that playing with a guy like Kobe or Wade or James translates to better shots and more open looks, you see the game way different than most people. Anyone's percentage is going to go up playing with those guys.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:38 PM
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Not even close to true. Orlando didn't get anywhere close to the same kinds of shots against the Lakers over the last three games as they got in the first two or against Cleveland. A lot of their shots were contested and those same 40% shooters couldn't shoot as well. If you don't think that playing with a guy like Kobe or Wade or James translates to better shots and more open looks, you see the game way different than most people. Anyone's percentage is going to go up playing with those guys.
That just isnt true. Kobe and Wade are both slashers who rarely dish out to the three point line. No one doubles perimeter players in the NBA. it is just a false argument that a player should shoot better because they are playing with a great scorer. it makes no sense. If you said that they played with a top post player, where there are doubles and people collapsing off the perimeter it may be palatable. If you want to say that Williams three point shooting improvement was because of Lebron, why did his overall shooting percentage drop? because shooting %'s are effected by tons of factors outside of the 4 other players on the court.
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