Hey Oracle Say it aint so: Johnny V winless for 5 days!!!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

1) The number of bad rides hes given during the last 4 days has been none, he simply hasn't ridden that many horses and has not given one bad ride that you can name. Which is completely different than rides like the one Gomez gave Milwaukee.

2) I have a hard time answering your posts knowing that you are a terrorist sympathizer. Above all things I am a proud US citizen, and I hate terrorists and all that sympathize with them. Were I to meet you, I would hurt you and very badly at that. I would have no remorse about hurting you badly, even setting you on fire and watching you burn.

I certainly can't defend Dalakhani's political views. He is a terrorist sympathizer which is disgraceful.

But with regard to the discussion about jockeys, Oracle was bashing Gomez for not winning, even when Gomez wasn't making any mistakes. When people said that Gomez was not making mistakes, Oracle said that there was no excuse for going 5 days without a win and that this would never happen to JV.

Anyway, I think Gomez is riding better than anyone right now. When he is riding well, he is easily the best jockey.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I certainly can't defend Dalakhani's political views. He is a terrorist sympathizer which is disgraceful.

But with regard to the discussion about jockeys, Oracle was bashing Gomez for not winning, even when Gomez wasn't making any mistakes. When people said that Gomez was not making mistakes, Oracle said that there was no excuse for going 5 days without a win and that this would never happen to JV. Anyway, I think Gomez is riding better than anyone right now. When he is riding well, he is easily the best jockey.

Rupert- I appreciate your honesty and your willingness to tell it like it is. You have earned respect for a reason and you ARE a stand up guy unlike the oral fellow.

Terrorist sympathizer? LOL. Surely you arent that closeminded. Are all Arabs terrorists? The act of "terrorism" IS disgraceful but those acts are committed not just by men in hoods but also by governments including Ours. I hate all forms of war. Call me a peace sympathizer.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Rupert- I appreciate your honesty and your willingness to tell it like it is. You have earned respect for a reason and you ARE a stand up guy unlike the oral fellow.

Terrorist sympathizer? LOL. Surely you arent that closeminded. Are all Arabs terrorists? The act of "terrorism" IS disgraceful but those acts are committed not just by men in hoods but also by governments including Ours. I hate all forms of war. Call me a peace sympathizer.

No, I don't think that all Arabs are terrorists. I don't think that all Muslims are terrorists. The terrorists are these militant Islamic extremists. These are the only ones I have a problem with. I don't know how you can compare our government to these groups. There is no defense for the behavior or the motives of these groups. They have no positive motives. They just like to kill innocent people out of hate. Look what they're doing in Iraq every day. They bomb super-markets and cafes. They want to blow-up commercial airliners. What would that accomplish aside from killing a bunch of innocent people. There is no way to compare the behavior of these groups to the bevavior of our government. You have to be kidding.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

No, I don't think that all Arabs are terrorists. I don't think that all Muslims are terrorists. The terrorists are these militant Islamic extremists. These are the only ones I have a problem with. I don't know how you can compare our government to these groups. There is no defense for the behavior or the motives of these groups. They have no positive motives. They just like to kill innocent people out of hate. Look what they're doing in Iraq every day. They bomb super-markets and cafes. They want to blow-up commercial airliners. What would that accomplish aside from killing a bunch of innocent people. There is no way to compare the behavior of these groups to the bevavior of our government. You have to be kidding.

Please, guys, maybe it's better to leave the political debate for another forum.

--Dunbar

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

No, I don't think that all Arabs are terrorists. I don't think that all Muslims are terrorists. The terrorists are these militant Islamic extremists. These are the only ones I have a problem with. I don't know how you can compare our government to these groups. There is no defense for the behavior or the motives of these groups. They have no positive motives. They just like to kill innocent people out of hate. Look what they're doing in Iraq every day. They bomb super-markets and cafes. They want to blow-up commercial airliners. What would that accomplish aside from killing a bunch of innocent people. There is no way to compare the behavior of these groups to the bevavior of our government. You have to be kidding.

Not the thread or section for this discussion but if you would like to do it in the political section i would be happy to engage. I always appreciate a well thought out debate and our debates so far have been pretty fun (especially the kent d one).

This thread is about ORACLE and how he was WRONG. Lets see if he is EVER going to be stand up. I wont hold my breath.

Originally Posted by oracle80

1) Were I to meet you, I would hurt you and very badly at that. I would have no remorse about hurting you badly, even setting you on fire and watching you burn.

Here is something else that I will point out to Mr. Byk....unbelievable

Oh yeah Oracle, Why do you like Johnny V. so much?...he is not American? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, gotcha!

This man says it all dalakhani, here is hoping he or one who feels like we do meets up with you and the folks you love


http://www.thekidfrombrooklyn.com/vi...p?videoid=1183

[Gander]

even setting you on fire and watching you burn.

LOL!

Originally Posted by Gander

even setting you on fire and watching you burn.

LOL!

Tim you know me, do you think I'm kidding even just a little bit?

[Gander]

No, I can see you picking up the gas can with clenched teeth and then lighting the match. LOL!

Originally Posted by Gander

No, I can see you picking up the gas can with clenched teeth and then lighting the match. LOL!

YES!!! And then yelling burn you mother****** as he writhed and screamed in agony. And then joyfully betting the late pik-4 right afterwards and having lunch.

Joel,
If you wanna suck up to Arabs be my guest. My best guess would be that waxing poetic about them on a message board wouldn't be quite the best way to go about it though. Perhaps actually achieving something within the industry would, say like, buying a grade one winner. Wake me up when you get around to doing something of that magnitude.
As far as this thing with johnny goes, when I criticize a rider I criticize the ride itself. Dunbar is such a pathetic moron that he took the time to find teh prices of his losing mounts yet couldn't find one that was a bad ride. And isn't that the point?
Bernadini is the best three year old I ever saw as of today, no doubt about it.

Gomez is in one his hot streaks the last week, making all the right moves and I really haven't seen him butcher one this week even in his losing efforts(you see Dunbar, if you wanna criticize a rider you have to cite a specific ride, something you were unable to do.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel,
If you wanna suck up to Arabs be my guest. My best guess would be that waxing poetic about them on a message board wouldn't be quite the best way to go about it though. Perhaps actually achieving something within the industry would, say like, buying a grade one winner. Wake me up when you get around to doing something of that magnitude.
As far as this thing with johnny goes, when I criticize a rider I criticize the ride itself. Dunbar is such a pathetic moron that he took the time to find teh prices of his losing mounts yet couldn't find one that was a bad ride. And isn't that the point?
Bernadini is the best three year old I ever saw as of today, no doubt about it.

Gomez is in one his hot streaks the last week, making all the right moves and I really haven't seen him butcher one this week even in his losing efforts(you see Dunbar, if you wanna criticize a rider you have to cite a specific ride, something you were unable to do.

You don't read too well, do you oracle. No one said JV gave a bad ride. But someone said he would never go 0-5. Gee, I wonder what genius said that. Probably the same genius that thinks 25 rides in 5 days is "miniscule".

--Dunbar

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel,
If you wanna suck up to Arabs be my guest. My best guess would be that waxing poetic about them on a message board wouldn't be quite the best way to go about it though. Perhaps actually achieving something within the industry would, say like, buying a grade one winner. Wake me up when you get around to doing something of that magnitude.
As far as this thing with johnny goes, when I criticize a rider I criticize the ride itself. Dunbar is such a pathetic moron that he took the time to find teh prices of his losing mounts yet couldn't find one that was a bad ride. And isn't that the point?
Bernadini is the best three year old I ever saw as of today, no doubt about it.

Gomez is in one his hot streaks the last week, making all the right moves and I really haven't seen him butcher one this week even in his losing efforts(you see Dunbar, if you wanna criticize a rider you have to cite a specific ride, something you were unable to do.

LOL

Dont try to weasel out of it you spineless little punk. No one said anything about JV doing anything wrong. It was merely pointed out that you were WRONG and too much of a chump to admit it.

Now run along little man. Indeed, you are a very little man.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

"You won't EVER see Prado or Velazquez go 0-5 days, ever, never. It does not happen"- A quote from Oracle80

I watched in uncontrolled glee today as the great Johnny Velasquez proved his mortality and completed his fifth day of racing without a win. Thats right boys and girls...Johnny went 0-5 days.

Lets see if Oracle is a stand up guy and takes his medicine on this one.

Meanwhile, Garret Gomez had another multi win day strengthening his hold on the second spot behind prado.

Yet another case where oracle cannot bring himself to admit he was flat out wrong. Third time this week. (the others were Songster's sheet figs out of his last race and the Bute rules in Calif.) Instead he tries to deflect the obvious and even resorts to some very black "humor".

Now I guess I will be a future burn victim too, for calling him on it.

--Dunbar

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Yet another case where oracle cannot bring himself to admit he was flat out wrong. Third time this week. (the others were Songster's sheet figs out of his last race and the Bute rules in Calif.) Instead he tries to deflect the obvious and even resorts to some very black "humor".

Now I guess I will be a future burn victim too, for calling him on it.

--Dunbar

The number of mounts hes had in the same period has been miniscule. He has yet to give a bad ride in that period. Tell you what tough guy, you name the bad ride he gave, name one. Go ahead and siftthrough charts if yoiu have to, you wont find one. Angel hasnt been putting him on many mounts, why? I don't know. I do know that i haven't cursed him out one time this week for a bad ride. Last time I cursed out Johnny was on Vig, thats the only horrible ride hes given at the meet.
So if the point is who is riding good or not, please show me the bad ride complete with commentary about what he did wrong. I'll be waiting.

[AeWingnut]

I missed something. Garret Gomez is a terrorist sympathizer?

or HH is ?

I don't see it

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by oracle80

The number of mounts hes had in the same period has been miniscule. He has yet to give a bad ride in that period. Tell you what tough guy, you name the bad ride he gave, name one. Go ahead and siftthrough charts if yoiu have to, you wont find one. Angel hasnt been putting him on many mounts, why? I don't know. I do know that i haven't cursed him out one time this week for a bad ride. Last time I cursed out Johnny was on Vig, thats the only horrible ride hes given at the meet.
So if the point is who is riding good or not, please show me the bad ride complete with commentary about what he did wrong. I'll be waiting.

Miniscule??!! He's ridden 25 horses in those 5 days! That's "miniscule"? Give me a break! Want to see them?

RACE ODDS
20-Aug
1) 2.1
2) 10.2
4) 4.3
6) 11
7) 2.85
21-Aug
2) 11.6
4) 1.7
6) 2.9
7) 1.6
23-Aug
2) 1.6
3) 3.75
4) 3.75
5) 13.7
7) 6.5
24-Aug
2) 3.85
4) 9.7
5) 4.9
7) 18.6
8) 4.1
25-Aug
3) 9.8
4) 4.9
6) 0.8
7) 2.05
8) 1.7
9) 11.3

I don't have to point out a bad ride in that list. We are not arguing whether JV gave a bad ride. We are talking about your statement, "You won't EVER see Prado or Velazquez go 0-5 days, ever, never. It does not happen."

Guess what? It happened. But you, as usual, can't accept it. And it almost goes without saying that you cannot admit you were wrong.

--Dunbar

[mclem10011]

I didn't get to see the whole card, I can't believe those two got skunked! We're talkin bout two of the top riders in the world. Gomez right now is riding so well, he was in in California last year, but he may be even more of a roll now.