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Old 08-15-2007, 04:07 PM
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"Being Seen" appeals to the younger generation...why do you think Martini bars and lounges have taken off so well in most major cities?
are trendy types that want to be seen going to head over to Ozone Park in the afternoon?

which tracks in the US do you envision people flocking to at night as an alternative to a Martini bar or a lounge? Mountaineer? Lone Star? LosAl? Balmoral?
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:11 PM
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are trendy types that want to be seen going to head over to Ozone Park in the afternoon?

which tracks in the US do you envision people flocking to at night as an alternative to a Martini bar or a lounge? Mountaineer? Lone Star? LosAl? Balmoral?
I heard Paris Hilton is considering moving to the St. Louis area because she simply can't get enough of Fairmount.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:36 PM
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are trendy types that want to be seen going to head over to Ozone Park in the afternoon?

which tracks in the US do you envision people flocking to at night as an alternative to a Martini bar or a lounge? Mountaineer? Lone Star? LosAl? Balmoral?
Hasn't Hollywood's later post time on Friday nights worked very well? Keeneland is a very 'trendy track' and they never have a problem with attendance and trust me, many of those people are not your year round racing affecionados but they are throwing money into the windows because it 'looks cool'.

Nothing will help Aqueduct...I'm a die hard fan of racing and I don't want to step foot in the place.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:22 PM
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are trendy types that want to be seen going to head over to Ozone Park in the afternoon?

which tracks in the US do you envision people flocking to at night as an alternative to a Martini bar or a lounge? Mountaineer? Lone Star? LosAl? Balmoral?
Actually, at Lone Star, people DO go instead of a Martini bar or lounge on a Friday night.

About the only place I can say that about.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:27 PM
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are trendy types that want to be seen going to head over to Ozone Park in the afternoon?

which tracks in the US do you envision people flocking to at night as an alternative to a Martini bar or a lounge? Mountaineer? Lone Star? LosAl? Balmoral?
I agree. Of course any dress code -- paddock, clubhouse, etc. -- is not going to solve the very global problems we have. However, the global problems require global solutions and those solutions have many ingredients. I don't think sitting in judgement of people, how they dress, and those types of attitudes are part of the solution. The solution is about the masses, not the few.

Be that as it may, years ago, The Meadowlands underwent a strategic planning process and implemented several initiatives. In short, it worked, albeit for a short time, and due to larger industry issues in NJ, the results and benefits were short-lived and not followed up on. But it did work. Today, on the "average" night -- the place is pathetic I am sorry to say.

Anyway, on a related note, see the below quote, and article.

“This isn't the gambling business. It isn't the restaurant business. This is the entertainment business,” Harper said. “Whenever you put 40,000 people into a facility, you better make them happy, and the only way to do that is to entertain them.

“Whether it's with ring or beautiful people or $11 margaritas, you have to have them feeling good about being here.”


Full article -- http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...b15harper.html


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Old 08-15-2007, 05:37 PM
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"Being Seen" appeals to the younger generation...why do you think Martini bars and lounges have taken off so well in most major cities?
Strip clubs are also doing well on the opposite end of the spectrum
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Old 08-15-2007, 05:43 PM
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"Being Seen" appeals to the younger generation...why do you think Martini bars and lounges have taken off so well in most major cities?
How else would I have ever discovered that I actually like martinis?
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:53 PM
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I find it hard to believe that the sport is surging based on a new paddock dress code.

Australian racing is surging because young people are being encouraged to dress-up to go to the track. It's the only country in the Western world where the sport has grown in popularity over the last 10-15 years. Going racing is now the trendy thing for young people to go.
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:58 PM
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Australian racing is surging because young people are being encouraged to dress-up to go to the track. It's the only country in the Western world where the sport has grown in popularity over the last 10-15 years. Going racing is now the trendy thing for young people to go.
I'll have you know that in Chicago, even without a dress code, there is no place more trendy than Hawthorne.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:01 PM
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I'll have you know that in Chicago, even without a dress code, there is no place more trendy than Hawthorne.
Does that husky gal, Rosie, with the lamme miniskirts and 5 foot wide hats still hang at da 'thorne?
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:03 PM
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Australian racing is surging because young people are being encouraged to dress-up to go to the track. It's the only country in the Western world where the sport has grown in popularity over the last 10-15 years. Going racing is now the trendy thing for young people to go.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:40 PM
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Australian racing is surging because young people are being encouraged to dress-up to go to the track. It's the only country in the Western world where the sport has grown in popularity over the last 10-15 years. Going racing is now the trendy thing for young people to go.

Sounds like someone could make a killing opening up a singles bar.
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:43 PM
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Sounds like someone could make a killing opening up a singles bar.

I was at Randwick in Sydney last October. They had something like 4 Grade1 races and two Grade 3's on the Saturday afternoon card. I guess they had about 40k in attendance that day. The younger crowd was there and all dressed up. The ladies were in their finest low cut dresses and heels. 95% of the crowd was there for one thing, to get drunk. There were bars set up the entire grandstand apron, which is very long at Randwick. There were party tents all over the place too. I went in a golf shirt and shorts which I wear most of the time to Del Mar. I sat in a half empty grandstand and had a great view of the track and finish line and had a wonderful time. I did take a walk through the grandstand apron and I can tell you seeing drunk women falling all over the place in their heels, that didnt help their balance was funny. I just dont see what getting dressed up and sh_t faced has to do with racing, but the Aussies love it. I can tell you there was over $1M in each win pool, but I think most of it came in off track.

Luckily the bus ride back to my hotel in Sydney wasnt bumpy.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:01 PM
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I find it hard to believe that the sport is surging based on a new paddock dress code.
Yeah, this guy might actually be track executive material....

Enforcing a dress code in the paddock will surely solve all of racings endless problems.

He's even topped my brilliant idea of strip-clubs at the track.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:07 PM
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Yeah, this guy might actually be track executive material....

Enforcing a dress code in the paddock will surely solve all of racings endless problems.

He's even topped my brilliant idea of strip-clubs at the track.
They had strippers at Balmoral Park a month or so ago. It's been done.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:09 PM
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They had strippers at Balmoral Park a month or so ago. It's been done.
now that's the kind of good ole US ingenuity that we've come to expect. if that doesn't get the sport to grow, I ask what will??
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:10 PM
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They had strippers at Balmoral Park a month or so ago. It's been done.
Did it work?

Were they named after Grade 1 horses from the past?

How much for "extras" ?
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:36 PM
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they also fawn all over some lady that lives in a castle.
this ain't Britain.
LOL!!!!! I agree, the LAST thing I want to do is wear God damn heels to the track, if you can't dress casual and comfortable there, than where the hell can you!
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:17 PM
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I only mentioned a dress-code for the paddock. Personally I wouldn't stop at the paddock and go for the Club House as well. What's the point in having a differential between the Granstand and the Club House when's there's no difference other than $2?

The whole picnic area is great. The Granstand is great too. But the Club House and especially the paddock should have stricter dress-codes than at present.

Australian racing has surged after a massive campaign to get young people to dress up to go to the track. It's always been that way in Britain-most grooms wear suits when they are leading their horses up at the races.
Take it to Pace Advantage!

They are on a roll with these campagins --- and they are home to the poster Andicap --- who is unquestionably the sharpest dresser I've ever come across in all my years of going to the track.
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:02 PM
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Take it to Pace Advantage!

They are on a roll with these campagins --- and they are home to the poster Andicap --- who is unquestionably the sharpest dresser I've ever come across in all my years of going to the track.
He was in a class by himself this weekend with his sartorial splendor!
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