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Old 05-09-2011, 09:41 AM
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Default What kind of stud deal could Animal Kingdom fetch?

If he were retired today? On another note, what happens now to leroidsdeanimaux's value?
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:05 AM
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Minimal and almost nothing?
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:18 AM
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I know they say Leroy is really ugly and I don't think he's been managed well. . . In the current state of the bloodstock industry/economy, can any horse really be worth that much?
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:54 AM
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Let's see what he does in the Preakness.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:29 PM
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Let's see what he does in the Preakness.
I've been looking at Animal Kingdom's pedigree....European, South American with a splattering of American influences....obviously loaded with stamina on top and bottom. On top Candy Stripes and his daddy, B/C CDR Blushing Groom, Dancing Brave back a bit on dam's side and his daddy, C CDR Lyphard. Probably not that desirable to American breeders but a win in the Preakness could change all that. Anytime a horse with obvious turf breeding steps up and wins a grade one on dirt folks take notice but he needs to show it wasn't a one time deal. A win in the Preakness and his stud fee will soar.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:30 PM
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I've been looking at Animal Kingdom's pedigree....European, South American with a splattering of American influences....obviously loaded with stamina on top and bottom. On top Candy Stripes and his daddy, B/C CDR Blushing Groom, Dancing Brave back a bit on dam's side and his daddy, C CDR Lyphard. Probably not that desirable to American breeders but a win in the Preakness could change all that. Anytime a horse with obvious turf breeding steps up and wins a grade one on dirt folks take notice but he needs to show it wasn't a one time deal. A win in the Preakness and his stud fee will soar.
Soar to what?

15k maybe?
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:35 PM
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I've been looking at Animal Kingdom's pedigree....European, South American with a splattering of American influences....obviously loaded with stamina on top and bottom. On top Candy Stripes and his daddy, B/C CDR Blushing Groom, Dancing Brave back a bit on dam's side and his daddy, C CDR Lyphard. Probably not that desirable to American breeders but a win in the Preakness could change all that. Anytime a horse with obvious turf breeding steps up and wins a grade one on dirt folks take notice but he needs to show it wasn't a one time deal. A win in the Preakness and his stud fee will soar.
Beyond doubtful.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:59 PM
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Beyond doubtful.
Time will tell, useless to debate this now. Animal Kingdom has just won the Derby, now will he continue on? As a side note, as of 2009, Leroidesanimaux stood for $17,500.
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:02 PM
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It's more likely that Animal Kingdom will be sold for several millions to take a run at the Dubai World Cup than he would command a stud deal at that same level in the US.
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:04 PM
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It's more likely that Animal Kingdom will be sold for several millions to take a run at the Dubai World Cup than he would command a stud deal at that same level in the US.
Yes, Irwin has a Chechnyan maniac who has probably already lined it up.
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:11 PM
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Yes, Irwin has a Chechnyan maniac who has probably already lined it up.
But no one has probably made better deals than the Halls (Sweet Ducky, Westside Bernie, Atomic Rain). At least Animal Kingdom is an accomplished horse.
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:12 PM
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Anybody could have sent a mare to Leroidesanimaux for $10k as late as Friday.

I get that Leroidesanimaux may be throwing some dirt horses. I even accept that. But what in tarnation in Animal Kingdom's bottom half is dirt pedigree? Honest question.
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:13 PM
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But no one has probably made better deals than the Halls (Sweet Ducky, Westside Bernie, Atomic Rain). At least Animal Kingdom is an accomplished horse.
They held onto Pants on Fire though. Should send him packing
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:42 PM
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Anybody could have sent a mare to Leroidesanimaux for $10k as late as Friday.

I get that Leroidesanimaux may be throwing some dirt horses. I even accept that. But what in tarnation in Animal Kingdom's bottom half is dirt pedigree? Honest question.
Interesting! As I posted earlier stud registry had him at $17,500 in 2009 but farm has him at $10,000 for 2011, quite a decrease, we'll see what effect Animal Kingdom has on same.
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:51 PM
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No one pays retail on horses at that level of stud fee.
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