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03-02-2009, 07:02 AM
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WKND BSF's: Quality Road 113; 'Mousse 103
Huge figure for Quality Road in the FOY and for Jojo too...
Fountain (GP): QUALITY ROAD 113; Theregoesjojo 105 Davona Dale (GP): JUSTWHISTLEDIXIE 97 Sham (SA): THE PAMPELMOUSSE 103; Take the Points 93 Baldwin (SA): BATTLE OF HASTINGS Canadian Turf (GP): TWILIGHT METEOR 94 Stymie (AQU): Barrier Reef 99 Crystal Waters (SA): Medzendeekron 99 Borderland Derby (SUN): Scorewithcater/Mine That Bird 84 Battaglia (TP): Proceed Bee 73 Mountain Valley (OP): Citizen/Flying Private 85 Miracle Wood (LRL): Rock on Justin 84 King Glorious (GG): Charlie's Moment 87 MSW (GP): Affirmatif 94
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03-02-2009, 07:26 AM
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You have to have US Treasury winning the 2nd race with just a 78 to get QR at 113.
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03-02-2009, 07:34 AM
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QR more than 3 full seconds faster than Treasury, (est. 16L or so?), though more than 3.5 hours later on the card. FOUNTAIN'S FRACTIONS: 23.83 - 45.55 - 1:09.40 - 1:35.01 Race 2 (MdnSplWt, 4+, 1m) 23.74 - 46.22 - 1:11.27 - 1:38.36
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03-02-2009, 08:27 AM
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I'd really like to hear what people think about Take the Points' 7-point regression on the Beyer scale. I felt like he ran a strong race. And I guess he did. Just expected to see him higher than 93.
Also, there were several wire-to-wire winners at SA yesterday, including more than one at two turns. Although just about all of the winners were among the favorites.
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03-02-2009, 08:30 AM
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03-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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Actually, it might have been a somewhat improved race. He got that big dirt figure while up on a soft pace with an easy trip.
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03-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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03-02-2009, 08:46 AM
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How long is a "length"? I usually use 10 feet, but I have never heard a definitive answer. If it is 10 feet, a horse coming home the final 1/8th in 13 seconds is covering a shade over 50 feet per second, or 5 lengths per second. If a length is indeed 10 feet then this would mean 3.35 seconds is 16 3/4 lengths.
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03-02-2009, 09:04 AM
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03-02-2009, 09:04 AM
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The old rule of thumb is that a length equals 1/5th of a second .... but to steal a line from Steve Davidowitz...."mathmatically speaking, a length should equal 1/5th of a second only when a horse travels a furlong in 15 seconds. The only horses who go that slow charge 10 cents a ride."
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03-02-2009, 09:19 AM
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03-02-2009, 09:22 AM
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Few would admit this.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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03-02-2009, 09:24 AM
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Ok, using the 8.5 feet for a length yields approx 19.5 lengths. Does the Beyer figure system still use the charts which assign lengths and points behind according to distance? I've seen 9 furlong dirt races come home with a 14 second final quarter, and I've seen them come home in 12 seconds. Using just a chart based on distance does not give an accurate representation of lengths behind.
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03-02-2009, 09:36 AM
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I think that most people use .16 seconds per length now. At that rate. 3.35 seconds would equal 21 lengths.
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03-02-2009, 10:04 AM
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03-02-2009, 11:24 AM
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03-02-2009, 11:38 AM
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03-02-2009, 12:06 PM
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This kind of points to what the focus of horseplayers demanding change in the industry should be: MORE ACCURATE TIMING (and thus data) for EVERY HORSE.
There's no excuse for not having a system like Trakus in place for EVERY TRACK. In the meantime, the track heads must be thrilled that the focus of horseplayers is on cheaters.
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03-02-2009, 12:08 PM
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i had also always been told fifths per length-never thought about what that meant for a furlong time.
filing away 1/6th for future reference.
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03-02-2009, 12:29 PM
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a length = 8ft
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