Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-11-2008, 07:22 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,984
Default Delaware likely to OK sports betting

When Delaware Gov.-elect Jack Markell and a new General Assembly take office next month, the legalization of sports betting is expected to be high on their "to-do" list. State lottery director Wayne Lemons said that with legislative approval, sports betting could be in business by the summer.

http://www.philly.com:80/philly/spor...l?nlid=2116459
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-11-2008, 07:42 AM
dalakhani's Avatar
dalakhani dalakhani is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Washington dc
Posts: 5,277
Default

It looks like they are going to do it like in canada meaning Parlays and Props. I wonder what the problem is with betting on a single sporting event? There has to be a reason.

Atlantic City is in trouble. Those casinos are bleeding money right now. Wouldnt it be something to see Donald Trump and company on Capitol Hill asking for a bailout of Atlantic City?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-11-2008, 08:01 AM
slotdirt's Avatar
slotdirt slotdirt is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,894
Default

This is pretty much the greatest idea ever.
__________________
The world's foremost expert on virtually everything on the Redskins 2010 season: "Im going to go out on a limb here. I say they make the playoffs."
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-11-2008, 08:25 AM
docicu3 docicu3 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,778
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dalakhani
It looks like they are going to do it like in canada meaning Parlays and Props. I wonder what the problem is with betting on a single sporting event? There has to be a reason.

Atlantic City is in trouble. Those casinos are bleeding money right now. Wouldnt it be something to see Donald Trump and company on Capitol Hill asking for a bailout of Atlantic City?
The parlay bet allows them to avoid federal obstacles that prohibit sports betting everywhere but Nevada and a few other exceptions. You will not be allowed to bet games straight up. This is not as much of a breakthrough as expected
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-11-2008, 08:30 AM
hoovesupsideyourhead's Avatar
hoovesupsideyourhead hoovesupsideyourhead is offline
"The Kentucky Killing Machine"
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: florida
Posts: 16,278
Default

did anyone think vegas would let this happen..they fed it up for internet play in the u.s.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-11-2008, 09:04 AM
deltagulf's Avatar
deltagulf deltagulf is offline
Hippodrome Bluebonnets
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: all over the roads of america.
Posts: 740
Default

what will be delawares takeout .
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-11-2008, 10:11 AM
philcski's Avatar
philcski philcski is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 8,872
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by docicu3
The parlay bet allows them to avoid federal obstacles that prohibit sports betting everywhere but Nevada and a few other exceptions. You will not be allowed to bet games straight up. This is not as much of a breakthrough as expected
Note that they actually have the exception... Nevada, Delaware, Oregon, and Montana.

The reason is it effectively increases their takeout, because let's say for example a 3 team parlay that should pay 8-1 in Vegas I guarantee will pay 7-1 or 6.5-1, yet most people aren't smart enough to realize that. This is what they do in Ontario. Their net take is closer to 15% rather than the 4.5% in Nevada this way...
__________________
please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-11-2008, 10:58 AM
slotdirt's Avatar
slotdirt slotdirt is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,894
Default

All I know is that one of the 3,832 times I have been stuck in traffic in DE driving to and fro DC and points north, I wouldn't have minded stopping in Christiana a few times to throw some duchats at a 3-game parlay.
__________________
The world's foremost expert on virtually everything on the Redskins 2010 season: "Im going to go out on a limb here. I say they make the playoffs."
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-11-2008, 01:29 PM
kenny p kenny p is offline
Golden Gate
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 393
Default

Your best for playing sports is to play offshore and have a local agent. That way its all cash. No credit cards or wiring. No nonsense and the good ones offer everything. KP
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-11-2008, 02:54 PM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kenny p
Your best for playing sports is to play offshore and have a local agent. That way its all cash. No credit cards or wiring. No nonsense and the good ones offer everything. KP
It isn't like the local agent is advertising though, it is all word of mouth which isn't the easiest information to find out
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-12-2008, 01:19 PM
Round Pen's Avatar
Round Pen Round Pen is offline
Aqueduct
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Ocala Fl
Posts: 604
Default

I really like the way this is done in Canada many times when I was at Woodbine I would Play "Proline" Here is a link to how it is played up there.

http://proline.olg.ca/demo_proline_e.jsp


You can take a 3 team parley and depending on how you play it your odds can be 15, 20-1.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-12-2008, 03:23 PM
SlewsMyHero's Avatar
SlewsMyHero SlewsMyHero is offline
Bowie
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Keystone
Posts: 204
Default

Too bad the State of Delaware won't contract this out to legitimate gaming companies to open a proper bookmaking operation. Las Vegas books have been criticized in recent years for their conservative sportsbook operations, but at least you can walk in make a straight wager. Serious sports bettors are straight bettors. Some will make parlays in certain situations, but generally they are single game bettors. I can see these places mobbed with 25 year old males betting small time $5 and $10 6 teamers. In my opinion, this will not generate the revenue they are hoping for. If they truly want to maximize their revenues, they need to open a legitimate sportsbook, and compete with the offshores and local bookmakers. I live in the Philadelphia area and would surely drive to Delaware to wager on some games I like. I will not however make the drive if I'm forced to parlay.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-12-2008, 05:01 PM
philcski's Avatar
philcski philcski is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 8,872
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SlewsMyHero
Too bad the State of Delaware won't contract this out to legitimate gaming companies to open a proper bookmaking operation. Las Vegas books have been criticized in recent years for their conservative sportsbook operations, but at least you can walk in make a straight wager. Serious sports bettors are straight bettors. Some will make parlays in certain situations, but generally they are single game bettors. I can see these places mobbed with 25 year old males betting small time $5 and $10 6 teamers. In my opinion, this will not generate the revenue they are hoping for. If they truly want to maximize their revenues, they need to open a legitimate sportsbook, and compete with the offshores and local bookmakers. I live in the Philadelphia area and would surely drive to Delaware to wager on some games I like. I will not however make the drive if I'm forced to parlay.
You can turn a two teamer parlay into a straight bet (by betting the side you like with both sides of another game), but you end up paying double juice, -125 usually. In Ontario they used to put out the lines early for NFL Sundays and sometimes there would be ones that were wayyyy off so it was actually worth it. Like I remember one specific time they had the Eagles at -3 when the real line was -12 or something...
__________________
please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-12-2008, 07:33 PM
Round Pen's Avatar
Round Pen Round Pen is offline
Aqueduct
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Ocala Fl
Posts: 604
Default

[quote=philcski]You can turn a two teamer parlay into a straight bet (by betting the side you like with both sides of another game), but you end up paying double juice, -125 usually. In Ontario they used to put out the lines early for NFL Sundays and sometimes there would be ones that were wayyyy off so it was actually worth it. Like I remember one specific time they had the Eagles at -3 when the real line was -12 or something...[/QUOTE]

Phil are we talking about the same Ontario Canada because if we are there Proline has never been run that way. Pro football spreads are all the same you can bet a tie which is 3 points or less you can bet the home or visiting team too win by 4 points or more or you can take home team or visiting team too win by 8 or more.
Heres an actual game from this weekend Buffalo @ NY Jets

Game 7 1:00PM FTB BUF @ NYJ

6.20-1 - Visiting team wins by more than 8
4.50-1 - Visiting team wins by more than 4
3.80-1 - Tie 3 Points or less
1.30-1 - home team wins by more than 4
1.60-1 - Home team wins by more than 8

THe over/Under is 41.5
1.80 - Over
1.60 - Under

Every game is the same way just the odds change
you have to play atleast 3 bets with no more than 6
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-12-2008, 08:43 PM
philcski's Avatar
philcski philcski is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 8,872
Default

[quote=Round Pen]
Quote:
Originally Posted by philcski
You can turn a two teamer parlay into a straight bet (by betting the side you like with both sides of another game), but you end up paying double juice, -125 usually. In Ontario they used to put out the lines early for NFL Sundays and sometimes there would be ones that were wayyyy off so it was actually worth it. Like I remember one specific time they had the Eagles at -3 when the real line was -12 or something...[/QUOTE]

Phil are we talking about the same Ontario Canada because if we are there Proline has never been run that way. Pro football spreads are all the same you can bet a tie which is 3 points or less you can bet the home or visiting team too win by 4 points or more or you can take home team or visiting team too win by 8 or more.
Heres an actual game from this weekend Buffalo @ NY Jets

Game 7 1:00PM FTB BUF @ NYJ

6.20-1 - Visiting team wins by more than 8
4.50-1 - Visiting team wins by more than 4
3.80-1 - Tie 3 Points or less
1.30-1 - home team wins by more than 4
1.60-1 - Home team wins by more than 8

THe over/Under is 41.5
1.80 - Over
1.60 - Under

Every game is the same way just the odds change
you have to play atleast 3 bets with no more than 6
Sort of... Same in that they're both run by the ontario lottery, but there's also a pointspread version. Just looked it up, apparently its only available at Casino Niagara and not at gas stations and the like now. Check Casino Niagara's website, this is what I envision Delaware will do.

edit: pointspread is available everywhere, just better odds at the casino.
__________________
please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you

Last edited by philcski : 12-12-2008 at 08:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.