Hypo Kentucky Derby ... 1950's Style

OK ... let's see if there was anything good around in the 1950's.

How about ...

... Tom Fool, Native Dancer, Nashua, Swaps, Summer Tan, Needles, Bold Ruler, Gallant Man, Iron Liege, Round Table, Hill Prince, High Gun, Tim Tam, Sword Dancer, First Landing?

Yup ... they'll do ... they'll do quite nicely.

Edit: Late entry to the field ... Nadir.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

OK ... let's see if there was anything good around in the 1950's.

How about ...

... Tom Fool, Native Dancer, Nashua, Swaps, Summer Tan, Needles, Bold Ruler, Gallant Man, Iron Liege, Round Table, Hill Prince, High Gun, Tim Tam, Sword Dancer, First Landing?

Yup ... they'll do ... they'll do quite nicely.

I'll take the Gray Ghost. That's a pretty competitive field though.

[Pointg5]

I think I would go with:

"Who Cares"

or

"Mygod,thiswas50yearsago,what'sthepoint"

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I think I would go with:

"Who Cares"

or

"Mygod,thiswas50yearsago,what'sthepoint"

Some us enjoy racing history!
I'd go with Native Dancer here also!

[Cajungator26]

I'd go with Native Dancer, although I think Needles would have given him a run for the money.

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I think I would go with:

"Who Cares"

or

"Mygod,thiswas50yearsago,what'sthepoint"

Yeah ... like what was that stupid thing ... like what do they call it ... the Declaration of the Constitution ... or something? ... and like wasn't that like a hundred years ago ... so I'm like "Hello ... who cares?" ... I mean they didn't even have cell phones then ... right?

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Yeah ... like what was that stupid thing ... like what do they call it ... the Declaration of the Constitution ... or something? ... and like wasn't that like a hundred years ago ... so I'm like "Hello ... who cares?" ... I mean they didn't even have cell phones then ... right?

Old Goat,

Were you as good at telling people wouldn't win, back in what you probably believe were the "Glory Days".

Or did you gain this talent of telling us who wouldn't win with your age and wisdom?

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Old Goat,

Were you as good at telling people wouldn't win, back in what you probably believe were the "Glory Days".

Or did you gain this talent of telling us who wouldn't win with your age and wisdom?

All of the above.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'd go with Native Dancer, although I think Needles would have given him a run for the money.

Cajun, I'm friends with Dave Erb, the rider of Needles. Asked him who the best horse he ever rode was, and he said Swaps.

[Kasept]

1. General Duke
2. Native Dancer
3. Nashua
4. Round Table

Originally Posted by Kasept

1. General Duke
2. Native Dancer
3. Nashua
4. Round Table

Errrrrrrrnnnnnntttttt !!! [sound of the "wrong" buzzer]

Gen. Duke never made the Derby ... or anything thereafter.

Tom Fool didn't either ... but he was 2YO champ and raced both before and after that year's Derby. Hey ... on that basis I should have also included Nadir ... I'll go back and add him.

Can't include the good Gen. ... or horses like Sir Gaylord, Hail To Reason, Hoist The Flag, Graustark, Boldnesian, etc. ... on any of these lists.

I wouldn't include Kelso, Buckpasser, or Wajima either because they weren't ready to rumble in May/June as 3YOS.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Cajun, I'm friends with Dave Erb, the rider of Needles. Asked him who the best horse he ever rode was, and he said Swaps.

That's interesting, Randall... thanks for the info!

It'd be one hell of a race any way you look at, wouldn't it?

[Downthestretch55]

Intersesting that Swaps got mentioned. I'm not sure but don't two of his records still stand?
Anyway, when he was mated to Bimlette, No Robbery came along.
No Robbery and Clear Road gave us Going Straight, sire of Bourbon Slush,
the dam of my broodmare, Bourbon Streettune.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Gen. Duke never made the Derby ... or anything thereafter.

I wouldn't include Kelso, Buckpasser, or Wajima either because they weren't ready to rumble in May/June as 3YOS.

Gen. Duke was ready until Friday Derby Week until Harthill "decided" he should be scratched.. Having had a complete sophomore spring up to that day, I don't see why you wouldn't include Gen. Duke in the discussion. He would have won that Derby. And as the best horse ever bred by Calumet, (by farm employee acclamation), and 9f record holder at Gulfstream for more than 40 years, he certainly has a claim to be part of a '50's era Fantasy Derby.