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A former TSA screener at Denver International Airport says colleagues who conspired to grope male passengers viewed what they were doing as “just a game.”

He opted to speak after a CBS4 Investigation earlier this week revealed two TSA screeners were fired for participating in a conspiracy to allow a male TSA agent to grope the genitals of male passengers.

“There was more people that knew it was going on,” the former worker told CBS4.

He asked he not be identified as TSA forbids current and former employees from discussing security procedures.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/04/1...r-groping-dia/

So I get it, when a male gropes another male it's just a game. When a male gropes a female it's sexual assault.
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Of course she is in the state who did this:
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Your hate for anything Christian comes thru loud and clear. Preaching tolerence by being intolerant. Gotta love the hypocrisy!
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Your hate for anything Christian comes thru loud and clear. Preaching tolerence by being intolerant. Gotta love the hypocrisy!
Here is what I don't understand Dell, you accuse Danzig of hating "anything Christian" because she points out specific facts about so-called "Christian" ideology that quite frankly deviates from mainstream Christianity...radical viewpoints that dwell on a narrow interpretation of a specific passage (interestingly usually from the Old Testament) while ignoring the teachings of Christ (you know, stuff like love, forgiveness, equality, tolerance of others etc). Often times I get confused by the religious right's focus on the Old Testament (understandable for Jewish folks but Christians??). We are very critical of Islamic fundamentalists but radical "Christians" are admired for their steadfast belief that words in a 2000 year old book written by men is somehow the indisputable truth word for word...stone any adulterers lately?
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Your hate for anything Christian comes thru loud and clear. Preaching tolerence by being intolerant. Gotta love the hypocrisy!
Radicalized Christianity is just as twisted as radicalized Islam. I was raised a Catholic as a kid and this form of Christianity in no way whatsoever resembles the tolerance that I was taught.
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Radicalized Christianity is just as twisted as radicalized Islam. I was raised a Catholic as a kid and this form of Christianity in no way whatsoever resembles the tolerance that I was taught.
You're right. Putting Moses in a text book or denying a gay wedding pizza and cake is the same thing as beheading someone or flying planes into buildings.
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You're right. Putting Moses in a text book or denying a gay wedding pizza and cake is the same thing as beheading someone or flying planes into buildings.
Hate is hate but go right ahead and compare something minor vs something catastrophic in a lame ****ing attempt to support your argument cause we are all dumb asses and can't see that bullshit tactic.

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Hate is hate but go right ahead and compare something minor vs something catastrophic in a lame ****ing attempt to support your argument cause we are all dumb asses and can't see that bullshit tactic.

http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/...=1429384501979
You were the one making comparisons.
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You were the one making comparisons.
And I will continue if every radical christian and radical muslim were to suddenly vanish to their appropriate Valhalla the world would be a better place. Now excuse me while I bust my IPAD over my knee as I was just DQ'd on an 11-1 at Keeneland
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Here is what I don't understand Dell, you accuse Danzig of hating "anything Christian" because she points out specific facts about so-called "Christian" ideology that quite frankly deviates from mainstream Christianity...radical viewpoints that dwell on a narrow interpretation of a specific passage (interestingly usually from the Old Testament) while ignoring the teachings of Christ (you know, stuff like love, forgiveness, equality, tolerance of others etc). Often times I get confused by the religious right's focus on the Old Testament (understandable for Jewish folks but Christians??). We are very critical of Islamic fundamentalists but radical "Christians" are admired for their steadfast belief that words in a 2000 year old book written by men is somehow the indisputable truth word for word...stone and adulterers lately?
Thanks somer.

I have no issue with christianity. I do have issues with those who are trying to tear down the separation of church and state, and those who twist jesus' teachings of love to justify hatred and discrimination. And I certainly do not support inequality, like that woman is espousing. She has a right to her opinion, I have the right to disagree.
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Radicalized Christianity is just as twisted as radicalized Islam.
Imagine a world where radicalized Islamism imitated radicalized Christianity in that instead of killing gays they refused them cake and pizza at their weddings. And instead of beating/killing/castrating their daughters for dating/driving and just being women, they protested them having abortions!

What a wonderful world it could be!

Oh, oh look a squirrel.
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Imagine a world where radicalized Islamism imitated radicalized Christianity in that instead of killing gays they refused them cake and pizza at their weddings. And instead of beating/killing/castrating their daughters for dating/driving and just being women, they protested them having abortions!

What a wonderful world it could be!

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Radicalized Christians blow up buildings and kill people just like radicalized Islamics do..the key word is "radicalized"....Extremes exist in all of society..But you have to draw the line at guilt by association..unless you're a Christian
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And I will continue if every radical christian and radical muslim were to suddenly vanish to their appropriate Valhalla the world would be a better place. Now excuse me while I bust my IPAD over my knee as I was just DQ'd on an 11-1 at Keeneland


Altho i have to think woden wouldnt have them.
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Radicalized Christians blow up buildings and kill people just like radicalized Islamics do..the key word is "radicalized"....Extremes exist in all of society..But you have to draw the line at guilt by association..unless you're a Christian
I fail to understand how 'we arent as bad as the other guy' is a valid excuse for people to use to explain that their hate is legit. It is amazing that some think being the lesser evil is ok...its still evil. There are some in this country who want a theocracy...who want to keep those deemed less equal in an inferior position, who actually think the falsehood of this country being founded for christians only is a truth. They believe some are more equal than others, that those discriminated against need to put it in perspective as tom cotton said, as tho the constitution is only here to protect the majority. In fact, it is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.
and i know some are rather limited in the amount of topics they can ponder...doesnt mean everyone is so limited.
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I fail to understand how 'we arent as bad as the other guy' is a valid excuse for people to use to explain that their hate is legit. It is amazing that some think being the lesser evil is ok...its still evil. There are some in this country who want a theocracy...who want to keep those deemed less equal in an inferior position, who actually think the falsehood of this country being founded for christians only is a truth. They believe some are more equal than others, that those discriminated against need to put it in perspective as tom cotton said, as tho the constitution is only here to protect the majority. In fact, it is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.
and i know some are rather limited in the amount of topics they can ponder...doesnt mean everyone is so limited.
I find it amazing and a bit asinine that some people can't understand that some people don't want to participate in gay weddings because of religious convictions not because of hate or being evil, and some others are against abortion for the same reason, not because they hate women.

Protesters standing outside an abortion clinic with signs aren't even in the same hemisphere as those who bomb the clinics or attempt harm to its workers just as bakers and pizza makers who refuse servicing a gay wedding aren't in the same ballpark as those who go out gay bashing.

Shoplifting and murder are not the same even though they are both crimes.

I've always found it disingenuous that some are able to stick their collective heads in the sand ignoring and thus allowing truly evil acts preferring to focus on incidentals.

If I was to get married and wanted pulled pork sandwiches I would expect a Muslim caterer to deny me service not because of hate in his heart but rather the religious doctrine he has in his heart.

Now if he beheads me because of it, it's out of hate.
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Imagine a world where radicalized Islamism imitated radicalized Christianity in that instead of killing gays they refused them cake and pizza at their weddings. And instead of beating/killing/castrating their daughters for dating/driving and just being women, they protested them having abortions!

What a wonderful world it could be!

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You mean like bombing abortion clinics or shooting doctors? Looks like radicalized Islam is not so different than radicalized Christianity. Pretty sure the term radical is a dead give away.

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You mean like bombing abortion clinics or shooting doctors? Looks like radicalized Islam is not so different than radicalized Christianity. Pretty sure the term radical is a dead give away.

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/03/the_...orism_partner/
I agree with you.

That said, as I pointed out Christians protesting abortion clinics using signs or their votes aren't radical. Just as the Muslim baker who refuses to cook pork isn't radical.

However the ten events pointed out by Salon of radical Christianity and White Supremacy over a period of 28 YEARS pale in comparison to events I could site of radical Islamism occurring over the past 28 MONTHS.

BTW are Muslims/Christians who castrate their women, or kill their women to save honor, or beat their women for driving, or throw gays off roofs, or stone gays in a public square or call for the annihilation of Israel, radical or is it just cultural?
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FYI Radical Islamist Terror Attacks over the past 28 months

India February 21, 2013 – 2013 Hyderabad blasts, two bomb blasts killed 16 people and injured 119.

United States April 15, 2013 – Boston Marathon bombings. Two brothers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnev, planted two bombs near the finish line of the Boston Marathon. The blast killed 3 and injured 183 others.

Turkey May 11, 2013 – Reyhanlı bombings, killed 52 people and wounded 140.
United Kingdom May 22, 2013 – Two men with cleavers kill British soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich

France May 23, 2013 – 2013 La Défense attack. An Islamic extremist wielding a knife attacked and wounded a French soldier in the Paris suburb of La Défense. 1 wounded.

India July 7, 2013 – A series of ten bombs explode in and around the Mahabodhi Temple complex, in Bodh Gaya, India. 5 wounded.

Kenya September 21, 2013 – Westgate shopping mall attack, 67 killed, 175 wounded

Pakistan September 22, 2013 – Peshawar church attack, 80–83 killed, 250 wounded.

Nigeria September 29, 2013 – Gujba college massacre. 44 students killed by Boko Haram

China October 28, 2013 – A 4x4 vehicle crashed into a crowd and burst into flames in Tiananmen Square in Beijing, 5 killed, 38 wounded.

Czech Republic January 1, 2014 – Killed Palestinian ambassador “held explosive in his hands”. 1 dead terrorist

Nigeria February 14, 2014 – Borno Massacre at least 200 killed by Boko Haram

China March 1, 2014 – A group of 8 individuals attacked civilians at Kunming Railway Station, 28 dead, 143 wounded.

China April 30, 2014 – Two assailants attacked passengers and detonated explosives at the Ürümqi railway station, 3 dead, 79 wounded.

Nigeria May 20, 2014 – Jos bombings at least 118 killed and over 56 injured

China May 22, 2014 – Two SUVs which carried 5 assailants were driven into a street market in Ürümqi and up to a dozen explosives were thrown at shoppers through the windows of the SUVs. The cars then crashed into shoppers and collided into each other and exploded, 39 dead, 90+ wounded.

Belgium May 24, 2014 – Jewish Museum of Belgium shooting. Gunman opened fire at the Jewish Museum in Brussels killing 4 people.

Syria August 2014 – Islamic State fighters massacred some 700 people, mostly men, of the Shu'aytat tribe in Deir ez-Zor Governorate

Australia September 23, 2014 – 2014 Endeavour Hills stabbings. Numan Haider, an Afghan Australian stabbed two counter terrorism officers in Melbourne, Australia. He was then shot dead

Russia October 5, 2014 – 2014 Grozny bombing. 5 officers and the suicide bomber, were killed, while 12 others were wounded

Canada October 20, 2014 – 2014 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu ramming attack. Lone attacker used his car to run over two Canadian soldiers. 1 killed, 1 injured

Canada October 22, 2014 – 2014 shootings at Parliament Hill, Ottawa. Lone attacker shot a soldier at a war memorial and attacked Parliament. 1 killed, 3 injured

Israel October 22, 2014 – A Hamas terrorist rammed his vehicle into a group of people waiting at a light rail station in Jerusalem. 2 killed 8 wounded

United States October 23, 2014 – Zale H. Thomson, also known as Zaim Farouq Abdul-Malik, attacked four New York policemen in the subway with a hatchet, severely injuring one in the back of the head and injuring another policeman in the arm before being shot to death by the remaining officers, who also shot a bystander.

Israel November 5, 2014 – In the November 2014 Jerusalem vehicular attack a Hamas operative deliberately drove a van at high speed into a crowd of people. 4 killed 13 wounded.

Nigeria November 28, 2014 – Kano bombing. Around 120 people were killed and another 260 injured.

United Arab Emirates December 1, 2014 – A burqa-clad woman stabs a 47-year-old American teacher to death in a mall restroom in Abu Dhabi. She later plants a bomb outside the home of an Egyptian-American doctor, which was safely dismantled

Russia December 4, 2014 – 2014 Grozny clashes. 26 total dead, including 14 policemen, 11 Jihadist from Caucasus Emirate, 1 civilian

Australia December 15, 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis. 2 dead, 4 injured

Pakistan December 16, 2014 – 2014 Peshawar school attack. Over 140 people dead, including at least 132 children

Yemen December 16, 2014 – Two suicide car bombers rammed their vehicles into a Shiite rebels' checkpoint killing 26, including 16 students

Nigeria December 18, 2014 – 2014 Gumsuri kidnappings. Boko Haram insurgents killed 32 men and kidnapped at least 185 women and children

Syria December 18, 2014 – Mass grave of 230 Tribesmen killed by Islamic State found in Eastern Syria

France December 20, 2014 – 2014 Joué-lès-Tours stabbings. A man yelling Allahu Akbar attacked a police office with a knife. He was killed and 3 police officers were injured

France December 21, 2014 – 2014 Dijon attack. A man yelling Allahu Akbar ran over 11 pedestrians with his vehicle. 11 injured

Nigeria December 22, 2014 – Boko Haram insurgents bombed a bus station in the city of Gombe, killing at least twenty people.

Iraq December 2014 – Islamic State militants execute 150 women Iraqi province of Al-Anbar, some of whom were pregnant at the time, who refuse to marry their fighters

Iraq December 24, 2014 – A suicide bomber killed 33 people and wounded 55 others in Madaen, about 25 km (15 miles) south of Baghdad

Somalia December 25, 2014 – Al-Shabaab attack in Mogadishu leaves 9 dead

Cameroon December 28, 2014 – Boko Haram attacks village in Cameroon leaving 30 dead

France January 7–9, 2015 – A series of 5 attacks in and around Paris kill 17 people, plus 3 attackers, and leave 22 other people injured.

Nigeria January 8, 2015 – 2015 Baga massacre. Boko Haram attacks town of Baga in northern Nigeria killing at least 200 people. Another 2000 are unaccounted for

Pakistan January 30, 2015 – Suicide bomber kills at least 55, injuring at least 59 in a Shiite mosque in southern Pakistan

Pakistan February 13, 2015 – Heavily armed militants killed at least 19 people and wounded more than 40 after they stormed into a Shiite mosque during Friday Prayer in a suburb of Peshawar.

Denmark February 14–15, 2015 – 2015 Copenhagen attacks. A gunman opened fire at the Krudttoenden café and later at the Great Synagogue in Copenhagen, killing two civilians and injuring five others

Pakistan March 15, 2015 – Suicide bombers kill at least 15 people in attacks on two churches in Lahore

Tunisia March 18, 2015 – Bardo National Museum attack. Militants linked to Islamic State attack the Bardo National Museum with guns, killing 21 people and injuring around 50

Yemen March 20, 2015 – 2015 Sana'a mosque bombings. 135 killed in bombings on several mosques by Islamic State

Somalia March 27, 2015 - Makka al-Mukarama hotel attack

Kenya April 2, 2015 – 148 killed in Al-Shabaab's Garissa University College attack

Iraq April 17, 2015 – A series of bombings by the Islamic State occured through Baghdad. 40+ killed 59+ injured.

Iraq Kurdistan April 17, 2015 – A car bomb exploded at the entrance of the US consulate in Erbil, Iraq. Islamic State took credit for the attack. 3 killed 5 wounded

Afghanistan April 18, 2015 – A suicide bomb detonated in front of a bank in Jalalabad, Afghanistan. Islamic State claims responsibility. 33 killed 100+ injured
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