Rand Paul, intolerant loser

[clyde]

Ralphy...Riot's rear view mirror.



She sees what she wants to see,whether anything's closer to her than anything appears to be...or not.

It's perfectly o.k. to stick a sign in a moving car.

So politically correct it hurts.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's perfectly o.k. to stick a sign in a moving car.

So politically correct it hurts.

Ror !!

(and a Ror for you too Clydee Poo)

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Did she not stick the sign into the open window of the SUV?

I thought she said she was an innocent bystander - just standing there holding her sign?

It matches exactly what she said happened. It further verifies her veracity.

She said she went up to the car - you can see suits rushing up to push her away (although they didn't push away the Rand sign guys right next to her, of course).

Then take all the time it takes for Paul to get out of the car, etc (where the other full-length video picks up) - meanwhile the volunteer goons are chasing her around the car (which is exactly what she said happened) and pull her back and down to the ground and stomp on her. There are two Lexington PD standing right next to Paul as he gets out of the car.

They tried to get the police to get her out of there beforehand - Proffitt foolishly admitted it - and the police of course said no reason to get her away (because it is, you know, entirely legal to protest political candidates). They knew this girl from previous Rand Paul events.

So the absolute rush to pull her back by the suits - that just plays into her hands about them deciding to target her beforehand. And after they push her back about 10 feet (shown on your tape) - the goons take it up and continue chasing her around the car, finally taking her down and stomping on her?

That makes it WORSE for the goons - she already is no longer any possible "threat" (not that holding up a political sign is justification for assault in the USA in the first place)

You know who revealed the names of Tim Proffitt and Mike Pezzano to the police, in response to the pictures posted on blogs taken from the tape, and from cell phone pics taken by other Rand supporter people there who couldn't believe what was going on?

Female Kentucky Tea Party members who were disgusted by what happened.

And the main blog responsible for identifying these guys was the blog of a Rand Paul supporter who was at the event, and made sure he got good pictures of the guys faces immediately afterwards.

[Riot]

Google News from SF Chronicle tonight. There are pictures and video on the site:

Rand Paul volunteer assaulter Pezzano missing: Sexual battery charges possible

Unlike head stomping Rand Paul ex-county coordinator Tim Profitt who sent press releases to AP and did an interview with a Kentucky TV news program, the other assault suspect Mike Pezzano has kept a lower profile. Kentucky police are considering charges against at least two more Rand Paul supporters caught on tape wrestling Lauren Valle to the ground while Tim Profitt stomped on her head.

"At this point, the investigation is still ongoing," Lexington Police spokeswoman Sherelle Roberts said. "We're looking into other individuals who may have been involved in the assault and could get charged."

Though Pezzano has not been identified by Lexington police, evidence that has surfaced in Tea Party blogs have positively identified him as the person who dragged Valle to the ground while holding her by her left breast as she was forcibly restrained.

Rand Paul volunteer Mike Pezzano is nowhere to be found and is presumed hiding or quietly trying to find a really good criminal defense lawyer. Pezzano has been positively identified by anonymous Tea Party activists who published his pictures online in the same plaid shirt worn by Valle's attacker.

Mike Pezzano's picture was anonymously distributed by Tea Party activists who were offended by his assault of activist Lauren Velle

In the widely distributed video published by the Associated Press, Pezzano is seen tacking and pushing Valle down to the ground as he was grabbing her left breast. Look at 0.09 second frame.

Grabbing Valle's breast as she was being pushed down is significant as it can be grounds for sexual battery in addition to fourth degree assault.

A frame by frame review of the assault by Pezzano clearly shows him grabbing Valle's left breast as he forcibly restrains her. Valle provides no resistance as she is brought down and instinctively assumes a fetal position trying to protect herself.

The video evidence and the high profile nature of the assault is compelling and could force the hand of Lexington police and prosecutors to upgrade charges from fourth degree assault to sexual battery.

In the case of head stomper Tim Profitt, Valle's resulting concussion also brings a strong possibility of an upgrade from fourth degree assault to felony assault.

A Talking Points Memo reader who claims to have been a former Fayette County prosecutor wrote:

The Lexington-Fayette police department, which is evidently conducting the investigation, is very professional and non-political. They can charge under KY law without consulting either Larson or Roberts, but as a practical matter I am certain there is consultation going on.

In this still frame, it is clear that Pezzano grabs Valle's breast as he forcibly restrained. The act of touching Valle's breast in the act of restraining her brings the possibility of sexual battery in addition to fourth degree assault.

In this still frame, it is clear that Pezzano grabs Valle's breast as he forcibly restrained. The act of touching Valle's breast in the act of restraining her brings the possibility of sexual battery in addition to fourth degree assault.

I worked with Larson 30+ years ago but have not spoken to him in many years. Larson is elected as a Democrat, BUT he is totally non-partisan in how he makes decisions on prosecutions. Larry Roberts, likewise, is elected as a Democrat; although I met him many years ago, I cannot say that I know him. He also has a reputation within the legal community of being of the highest personal integrity and makes decisions on prosecutions strictly on the merits and on a totally non-partisan basis.

Although both men are elected Democrats, politics will not have anything to do with any decision either may make in this case. I should also state that there is no question that these are tough, hard-nosed prosecutors.

Based upon the video and assuming there is no exculpatory evidence not on the video, the perpetrator(s) would be well advised to get a first rate criminal attorney and start plea bargaining and hope they can do some time on a misdemeanor in the Fayette County jail. If the report is correct that the victim suffered a concussion, then a felony prosecution is very a distinct possibility. No competent defense attorney wants to cross examine that video.

There is no doubt that civil charges will be filed by Valle in addition to criminal charges that will be filed by Lexington.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...#ixzz13cCgYSF9

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Female Kentucky Tea Party members who were disgusted by what happened.

And the main blog responsible for identifying these guys was the blog of a Rand Paul supporter who was at the event, and made sure he got good pictures of the guys faces immediately afterwards.

so considering what a Conway supporter did (tin foil hat and all) surely your in the Rand camp now!

Stay on the Muslim/Death Row Imate/ Illegal Alien side! Now I understand the change in the GOP and God Bless!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

so considering what a Conway supporter did (tin foil hat and all) surely your in the Rand camp now!

Stay on the Muslim/Death Row Imate/ Illegal Alien side! Now I understand the change in the GOP and God Bless!

Newspaper people and bloggers have been looking for the lady who said she had her foot stomped at the rally, she can't be found.

BTW, I'm not on the death row imate (sic) side. I'm on the capital punishment side. And what's the deal with illegal aliens?

Really, Dell, the way you assume and make up crap about other posters is beyond irritating.

True, I most certainly don't hate Muslims like you do. I guess that anger and hate works for you, though ...

[Dahoss]

Both guys are assh.oles and they should be punished. What they did was disgusting. I don't care what she did. They were wrong.

But give me a break with the breast grabbing. I just watched the video again. He was restraining her (and wrong in doing it) but he isn't sexually assaulting her. There is no need to try and make this look bad, because it already looks awful.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Both guys are assh.oles and they should be punished. What they did was disgusting. I don't care what she did. They were wrong.

But give me a break with the breast grabbing. I just watched the video again. He was restraining her (and wrong in doing it) but he isn't sexually assaulting her. There is no need to try and make this look bad, because it already looks awful.

Yeah, that seems to be a reach. This guy (Mike Pezzano) already came out yesterday and said he didn't know Proffitt was at the rally, didn't approve of what he did (the stomp) while he was holding the woman down.

Seems this guy got it right away that this was gonna be ugly and public. I didn't know he had "disappeared". Hopefully he's lawyering up.

Edit: click on the link above, again. There's an update. He's throwing his buddy under the bus. There's also a picture of him standing in a Lexington park, wearing what looks to be like an assault rifle. Good times at the Tea Party!

[dellinger63]

where's Gloria Aldred??? in all this

[Riot]

Mike Pezzano: "I was just trying to protect Rand. I was more worried about Rand's safety than I was anything else. It's like if someone yells fire... you don't just sit there. You do something,"

Bet he wish he had his gun with him! I'm sure the two Lexington Police officers standing about 15 feet away, and the suits that pushed the woman back from the car when she first held up the sign, were glad these bubbas were there to help. Especially after the cops already told them they wouldn't make her leave. Bet Rand is glad, too

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

And what's the deal with illegal aliens?:

forgot you were on AZ's side when the Fed said they can't process and deport saving the Fed the money. My bad!

[joeydb]

When Rand Paul wins, will we change the name of this thread to, "Rand Paul, intolerant winner"?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

If you ever attend a public gay rights rally, and you hold up a sign touting gay rights while standing next to a crowd of ignorant rednecks, and they grab you, throw you to the ground and stomp on you - well, I hope you remember you are at fault for that.

not exactly the same... in fact totally different (not that I expect anything else from you)

If I attend a Catholic rally in rainbow chaps and decide to rush the Pope, I will expect to get pushed to the ground and held down.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Liar? LOL - this exactly matches her description of what happened.

If that was the start of it (holding up a sign they don't like to the car, which is perfectly legal, btw) - that further verifies her version of events - where they subsequently chase her all around the car to take her down. Only it adds being singled out, roughed up and jerked away from the car at the start of it all, too.

These guys are doomed in court.

you really are an idiot

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by clyde

Ralphy...Riot's rear view mirror.



She sees what she wants to see,whether anything's closer to her than anything appears to be...or not.

[Crown@club]

Let me get this straight. I can get away with shoving a sign in a window of a moving vehicle with a passenger sitting at that window?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Let me get this straight. I can get away with shoving a sign in a window of a moving vehicle with a passenger sitting at that window?

only if RIOT approves the content of the sign

Tuesday is going to be the bestest Tuesday evar!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

When Rand Paul wins, will we change the name of this thread to, "Rand Paul, intolerant winner"?

Yes, he will win, and yes, he is intolerant. He will work to take rights away from women, gays, minorities. It's very sad he will be elected.