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Old 11-13-2007, 09:24 PM
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Many of the stars of the 70's raced on far more than hay, oats and water.
And raced, and raced, and raced, and raced.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:24 PM
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I am not so sure about that, they have broken attendence records again this year.

It is obviously completely different from baseball because one has gambling involved as its primary source of income.

Horse racing needs to find its niche, like minor league hockey. The Wolves here in Chicago(actually Rosemont) sell out constantly and are a good team, they are marketed perfectly. I think we just got a field hockey team also that is seeing some good attendence numbers.
I would tend to think that Horseracing could find better role models than minor or major league hockey.

Have you actually attended the pro field hockey?
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:28 PM
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I have heard many opinions with facts as to why they do it, the who lactic acid reason just does not hold water to me based on the medical opinions I have heard....Some may use it for that reason but I believe masking drugs was the prevalent reason amongst bigger barns.
I believe you are thinking of the diuretic Lasix, not baking soda.
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I have heard many opinions with facts as to why they do it, the who lactic acid reason just does not hold water to me based on the medical opinions I have heard....Some may use it for that reason but I believe masking drugs was the prevalent reason amongst bigger barns.
I'm not sure where you get your medical opinions but if baking soda and confectionary sugar can mask drugs then we can make a whole lot of money helping people pass drug tests. Hell we can make millions selling to PVal and a few baseball players alone.

By the way this is 2007, we are testing at the picogram level and the 'masking' of drugs is no longer really valid in almost all cases.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:29 PM
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And raced, and raced, and raced, and raced.
So would you on sublimaze and other assorted substances.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:30 PM
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I believe you are thinking of the diuretic Lasix, not baking soda.
Lasix doesnt help mask drugs either
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:30 PM
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I'm not sure where you get your medical opinions but if baking soda and confectionary sugar can mask drugs then we can make a whole lot of money helping people pass drug tests. Hell we can make millions selling to PVal and a few baseball players alone.

By the way this is 2007, we are testing at the picogram level and the 'masking' of drugs is no longer really valid in almost all cases.
Haven't you realized by now that many of the people who post on here are authorities on everything.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:31 PM
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Haven't you realized by now that many of the people who post on here are authorities on everything.
Well maybe the authorities can help me out with a $100 pick 6 ticket at Hollywood. I promise to give the money back if any of my winners comes up with a positive.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:33 PM
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So would you on sublimaze and other assorted substances.
Cool.

Bring back sublimaze and other assorted substances if that's what it takes.

Does it actually make horses sounder?
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:38 PM
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Cool.

Bring back sublimaze and other assorted substances if that's what it takes.

Does it actually make horses sounder?
Until it wears off
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:38 PM
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I would tend to think that Horseracing could find better role models than minor or major league hockey.

Have you actually attended the pro field hockey?
No, but I have gone to a Wolves game and sat on the glass for $25, I have never been to a hockey game nor do I think hockey is fun, but friends and I needed something to do so we went and it was a great time.

Pro field hockey is getting major marketing time on the radio around here. I think they are called the Shamrocks.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:40 PM
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do they wear bikinis?
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:40 PM
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No, but I have gone to a Wolves game and sat on the glass for $25, I have never been to a hockey game nor do I think hockey is fun, but friends and I needed something to do so we went and it was a great time.

Pro field hockey is getting major marketing time on the radio around here. I think they are called the Shamrocks.
Hockey in person is great.

What kind of uniforms do the shamrocks wear?
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:41 PM
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Haven't you realized by now that many of the people who post on here are authorities on everything.

And some on nothing.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:41 PM
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I dont believe Heroin or amphetimines were ever considered legal.
Yes, you're right, not "legal" on the track (although the only way to detect was a veterinarian suspecting use via the horse acting high) but "legal" as in readily available by prescription to the public (I think until about 1915 or so).
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:43 PM
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Yes, you're right, not "legal" on the track (although the only way to detect was a veterinarian suspecting use via the horse acting high) but "legal" as in readily available by prescription to the public (I think until about 1915 or so).
Everything before 1920 is just a blurrrrrrrrrrr
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:44 PM
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Lasix doesnt help mask drugs either
Agreed.
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Hockey in person is great.

What kind of uniforms do the shamrocks wear?
http://www.chicagoshamrox.com/circa2006/index.html
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:47 PM
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I might have to start going now.

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Old 11-13-2007, 09:49 PM
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Lasix doesnt help mask drugs either
dihydrogen monoxide?
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