Circular Quay

Originally Posted by oracle80

Show me where I did that you liar. Thats really all you are, a liar trying to distort or misrepresent what I said.

Here are your statements, all from this thread


1. "I don't care who debuts where and does what to who, as long as this horse is in training there won't be a two year old who will touch him." (ridiculous)

2."never even broke a sweat or took a deep breath." (I guess you were riding him, LOL)

3. "The horse is great now (really, I guess those cheap horses and fillies that ran the same time yesterday on the same track are great too." LOL)

4. "I havent seen a two year old like this horse in over ten years. Its about time!!! "(In ten years. I guess you haven't watched many 2yo olds)


As for your personal attacks, stop lying. Some of your attacks got threads removed. You attacked Cunningham Racing on numerous threads. Completely uncalled for. Now you think you can attack me because my wife knows a thing or two. Please.

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

Here are your statements, all from this thread


1. "I don't care who debuts where and does what to who, as long as this horse is in training there won't be a two year old who will touch him." (ridiculous)

2."never even broke a sweat or took a deep breath." (I guess you were riding him, LOL)

3. "The horse is great now (really, I guess those cheap horses and fillies that ran the same time yesterday on the same track are great too." LOL)

4. "I havent seen a two year old like this horse in over ten years. Its about time!!! "(In ten years. I guess you haven't watched many 2yo olds)


As for your personal attacks, stop lying. Some of your attacks got threads removed. You attacked Cunningham Racing on numerous threads. Completely uncalled for. Now you think you can attack me because my wife knows a thing or two. Please.

Im nuts too. It was the best performance ive seen by a 2yr old this time of the year I have seen in a very long time.For anyone to make the claim that 2yr old means nothing now, is very disrespectful of the game. They have to start somewhere. This field he beat was very strong looking with a lot of classy colts, some which may catch up with more seasoning ,maturity,and stretching out. We all like to be first to jump on the bandwagon and Ora called it.When some of flags monsters start beating him then say I told you so. This colt has accomplished a graded stakes win and all are making a mistke if you feel he is a fluke.

Originally Posted by jpops757

Im nuts too. It was the best performance ive seen by a 2yr old this time of the year I have seen in a very long time.For anyone to make the claim that 2yr old means nothing now, is very disrespectful of the game. They have to start somewhere. This field he beat was very strong looking with a lot of classy colts, some which may catch up with more seasoning ,maturity,and stretching out. We all like to be first to jump on the bandwagon and Ora called it.When some of flags monsters start beating him then say I told you so. This colt has accomplished a graded stakes win and all are making a mistke if you feel he is a fluke.

Neither one of you is nuts, but Oracle holds people accountable for crazy statements and I am just doing the same here. He could be the next Secretariat but tough to be so high on a horse that has run two pretty average times.

[blackthroatedwind]

For those that care, Circular Quay earned a Beyer Figure of 83 for yesterday's race.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

For those that care, Circular Quay earned a Beyer Figure of 83 for yesterday's race.

A Blistering 83? That probably leads Pletcher's JV team in KY.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

Oracle is the one calling him great in this thread. He used the word great which is comical. Guys like Tabor aren't in it to win the Bashford Manor they are in it to win the derby and this horse and all horses that win the BM are not derby winners.

Guys like Tabor flew in to watch this race yesterday, it may be insignificant, but the guy has top quality horses all over, I found it interesting he flew in to see the race in person....

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

A Blistering 83? That probably leads Pletcher's JV team in KY.

Dude, let it go.. others like the horse, let them(us) be. Why so defensive? Can't they think he could be good?

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Dude, let it go.. others like the horse, let them(us) be. Why so defensive? Can't they think he could be good?

They can think anything they want. The facts though are that he ran an identical time on the same track at the same distance on the same day to 2yr old maiden fillies and $10,000 claimers. Lets just hope there are better two year olds out there.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Hey Bold Ruler and friends. Lemme tell you something. When Circular Quay broke his maiden only Sent To Stud apparently knows how to watch a race, cause hes the only guy who didnt toss cold water on this horse.
His win just now was one of the most incredible things I ever saw. This horse is the goods, and he will run all day. I don't care who debuts where and does what to who, as long as this horse is in training there won't be a two year old who will touch him. And how scary is it that he wants to go farther. I havent seen a two year old like this horse in over ten years. Its about time!!!

I will give you a decision in round 1 but I still say this horse will get knocked out in round 2 or 3 when he has to race against the NY horses.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

They can think anything they want. The facts though are that he ran an identical time on the same track at the same distance on the same day to 2yr old maiden fillies and $10,000 claimers. Lets just hope there are better two year olds out there.

Wow. Times, times, times. Beyers, Beyers, Beyers.

It must take you like five minutes to handicap an entire card, since that seems to be all you look at.

How many times can you make the same argument? This is beyond beating a dead horse, this is like beating a stable full of dead horses, and their grooms, plus the goat that hangs out there.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

You can like anyone you want and so can anyone else, but you and your "daddy's money" comments and attacks on peoples families is going to get you attacked when you make ridiculous statements like "there won't be a two year old who will touch him" or he is the greatest 2yr old in 10 years. Most 2yr olds have yet to run, some are already faster, and this horse is slow. You are just pushing this crap to make it look like you are the greatest judge of horseflesh alive. A nice 2yr old ran a good race but on two races you have proclaimed him the Eclipse winner.

Oracle very wrong here.

Not Hoist's "Daddy' Money."

Get it right!!!

It's Hoist's "Wife's Daddy's Money." (just kidding)

Soaring By, as reported earlier by this expert, is a strong bet-against from a inside post vs better on a tighter track next time out. Horses that debut with Beyer figs like his are always, always, always poor bets second out. Write it down, put it on tape, tell your mothers.

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Guys like Tabor flew in to watch this race yesterday, it may be insignificant, but the guy has top quality horses all over, I found it interesting he flew in to see the race in person....

Tabor flew in because he is attending the July 2 year olds in training sale at Keeneland.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Tabor flew in because he is attending the July 2 year olds in training sale at Keeneland.

there is no 2 yo sale at Kee in july, it is held in april during the meet. There is a yearling sale @ fasig tipton in lexington, but not till later in the month.

Originally Posted by paisjpq

there is no 2 yo sale at Kee in july, it is held in april during the meet. There is a yearling sale @ fasig tipton in lexington, but not till later in the month.

Yeah the fasig tipton. Thanks for correcting me. But Tabor is currently in Lexington.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Yeah the fasig tipton. Thanks for correcting me. But Tabor is currently in Lexington.

This is the one he is attending

July 17-18th

July Selected Yearlings, Fasig-Tipton Kentucky, Inc., Lexington, Kentucky

Sale starts at 10:00am each morning

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Tabor flew in because he is attending the July 2 year olds in training sale at Keeneland.

There is no July two year old in training sale and the yearling sale doesnt start for quite a while. I would guess he flew in because he felt like watching two of his two year olds who were favored in stakes races. I'm sure Quay gave him a hell of a lot of satisifaction. Tabor owned and raced the sire and the dam and this was a "free horse" that he bred. He did him proud.

Originally Posted by oracle80

There is no July two year old in training sale and the yearling sale doesnt start for quite a while. I would guess he flew in because he felt like watching two of his two year olds who were favored in stakes races. I'm sure Quay gave him a hell of a lot of satisifaction. Tabor owned and raced the sire and the dam and this was a "free horse" that he bred. He did him proud.

Tabor is attending the Fasig Tipton--Thanks for all those who caught my error. But I am sure he flew in to see the race, but more importantly, to go to the sales this weekend.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Tabor is attending the Fasig Tipton--Thanks for all those who caught my error. But I am sure he flew in to see the race, but more importantly, to go to the sales this weekend.

Thunder Gulch has two offspring in the sales.

Hip numbers 462 and 471.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Tabor is attending the Fasig Tipton--Thanks for all those who caught my error. But I am sure he flew in to see the race, but more importantly, to go to the sales this weekend.

someone correct me if I'm wrong but he (tabor) doesn't usually buy much-- if anything--@ that sale...waits for saratoga and keeneland.
Many of those yearlings go to pinhookers.

Originally Posted by paisjpq

someone correct me if I'm wrong but he (tabor) doesn't usually buy much-- if anything--@ that sale...waits for saratoga and keeneland.
Many of those yearlings go to pinhookers.

I think you are correct. But whatever the reason, he is in Lexington. I can only assume it is for the sales and a litte horse race watching that he took in over the weekend.