Shared Belief

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?

I read where they might gallop him before the crowd but that's pretty much it for his Del Mar appearance.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?

As Arletta said, CC is not running in the Pacific Classic. He's not even in training right now. They sent him out to the farm for a rest. I believe their plan is to prep in the Goodwood (which is usually around Oct. 1st) and then run him in the BC Classic. CC obviously loved the old Santa Anita track, but there will be a new surface at SA come October. CC seemed to run fine on every track but he was most dominant at Santa Anita. I think he was at least a couple lengths better at Santa Anita than other tracks. He probably won't have that same advantage on the new surface.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think he was at least a couple lengths better at Santa Anita than other tracks.

Except when he wasn't.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

As Arletta said, CC is not running in the Pacific Classic. He's not even in training right now. They sent him out to the farm for a rest. I believe their plan is to prep in the Goodwood (which is usually around Oct. 1st) and then run him in the BC Classic. CC obviously loved the old Santa Anita track, but there will be a new surface at SA come October. CC seemed to run fine on every track but he was most dominant at Santa Anita. I think he was at least a couple lengths better at Santa Anita than other tracks. He probably won't have that same advantage on the new surface.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-toward-return

this is where i read they will run once at los al, in a race they're going to write for him, as a prep for the bc.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Except when he wasn't.

He also might have been just putting it all together during the Winter/Spring meet.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?

I doubt if he loses in the Pacific Classic I'll be moaning about him being done.

I would not be surprised at all if he burns at Del Mar. That race is going to be the best spot to play against him, in my estimation.

Coming back out of that race though, provided he runs on dirt, he'd be real real tough.

My expectations for him? I think he's the most talented horse we've seen at least since Barbaro. I also think he's susceptible to all sorts of problems. Therefore, I really don't have any expectations for him other than to win almost any race he goes into, provided he's sound going in.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He would be. And for you to say Shared Belief is the best horse pointing to race is pure comedy. GOD has won multiple G1's and a good 2nd in a BC Classic. The other horse has won a very soft Juvy G1. I dont think Shared Belief will ever in his life run a race like GOD Big Cap this year.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.

Aren't they pretty much the same horse running routes? I think if both ran in the same race neither one is close to winning as long as there were other breathing horses running in the same race. Who's overrating Game On Dude? He is what he is. I don't think anyone is calling him an all time great or anything.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Aren't they pretty much the same horse running routes? I think if both ran in the same race neither one is close to winning as long as there were other breathing horses running in the same race. Who's overrating Game On Dude? He is what he is. I don't think anyone is calling him an all time great or anything.

Yes, they run the same way. Commentator and GoD are much alike.

However, I'll take the former as a higher quality any day. I wasn't even a big fan of his.

Who's overrating GoD? PG95, that's who.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

He also might have been just putting it all together during the Winter/Spring meet.

Yup....the main reason his post was not particularly clever.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.

I agree with one thing in that post. Commentator is one of the GOAT.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yes, they run the same way. Commentator and GoD are much alike.

However, I'll take the former as a higher quality any day. I wasn't even a big fan of his.

Who's overrating GoD? PG95, that's who.

I don't overrate him. He is what he is. You overrated Belief I just pointed out GOD is much more accomplished. I mean hell Eskendereyas 3yr old races would crush Shared Belief.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

He also might have been just putting it all together during the Winter/Spring meet.

I agree that CC was getting really good in the winter/spring. But were his races at Churchill and Pimlico as good as his races at Santa Anita? You can look at it a few ways. On the one hand, you could say that his races were just as good if not better in the TC races because he faced much better horses. But did he really? Even if there were some decent horses in the Derby and Preakness, did any of them fire? Commanding Curve and Ride on Curlin were the horses that ran 2nd. CC only won those races by 1 1/2- 2 lengths. I would argue that with identical race dynamics, CC can beat Commanding Curve and Ride on Curlin by bigger margins at Santa Anita.

And if you want to look at speed figures, CC ran faster at SA than he did at CD or Pimlico.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I don't overrate him. He is what he is. You overrated Belief I just pointed out GOD is much more accomplished. I mean hell Eskendereyas 3yr old races would crush Shared Belief.

While it's nearly impossible to rank the list of all time greatest idiotic things you've ever said, this would have to be up there.

[Alabama Stakes]

what sayeth thou to that slander, Rockhead 10 ?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

While it's nearly impossible to rank the list of all time greatest idiotic things you've ever said, this would have to be up there.

No not really. And hopefully someone else well chime in. But Eskendereya ran a monstrous race in the Wood demolishing a pretty solid Jackson Bend. Duel G1 placed I believe, and I know he won at least 1 G1.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

No not really. And hopefully someone else well chime in. But Eskendereya ran a monstrous race in the Wood demolishing a pretty solid Jackson Bend. Duel G1 placed I believe, and I know he won at least 1 G1.

Does Jim Rome know how invaluable a service you are providing him?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Does Jim Rome know how invaluable a service you are providing him?

So I'm right and you respond like this. Its fine, its expected. I mean you can't argue anything I'm saying anyway. Eskendereya dominated major Derby preps. Shared Belief won an allowance at GG and a race at ultra prestigious Los Amigos.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I agree with one thing in that post. Commentator is one of the GOAT.

Fairly recent horses who will NEVER be mentioned among the GREATEST OF ALL TIME who were better than Commentator(everyone else feel free to add to this list as it is off the top of my head):

In no particular order
1. MDO
2. Invasor
3. Pleasantly Perfect
4. Mineshaft
5. Congaree
6. Lava Man(yep, i said it)
7. Perfect Drift
8. St. Liam
9. Candy Ride
10. Curlin
11. Roses in May
12. Game on Dude
13. ETC

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-toward-return

this is where i read they will run once at los al, in a race they're going to write for him, as a prep for the bc.

I didn't realize there was going to be a race for him at Los Al. That gives them a good option. Off the layoff, they may want to come back in a one mile race, rather than a 1 1/8 mile race. It will probably be a much easier field too.