Go Israel

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Maybe getting laid by a nice Jewish girl would help YOU!!

Jewish girls are great as long as they aren't religious fanatics. The jewish girl I dated in college wanted me to tell her parents how my great grandfather was jewish just so they were ok with me. That is insanity. I just wanted to get laid and they were concerned about who my great grandfather was. Crazy religious people.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

i dont think he could get it up unless he went to Limbaugh's viagra pusher.

This guy is just a far right zionist wing-nut.

Says he's got degrees up his a ss, but really can't put together anything constructive other than to support killing innocent Arabs. ....
"Bomb Damascus!" Bomb Tehran!" He just doesn't get it. In the meantime he supports the oppression by Israel of the impoverished Palestinians and suggests they vacate and go back to Africa.

Sixty years ago, the Israelis were roaming Europe and Asia. If they don't work to find a way to live in peace with the Palestinians, theyll be marching again sometime during the next 60 years.

I'm so tired of this a sshole saying the rest of the world should stop picking on, as he calls it, "Teeny tiny Israel." Yeah, right the same teeny tiny Israel with the world's 4th largest military paid for by yours truly.

Israel has f'ed up so bad in Lebanon time after time.

The worst thing Israel does is they DO NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS. Hell, they traded 400 Arab prisoners to get back Elhanan. Yeah, great move there. Maybe they can trade 1,000 for one this time and set the world back another 20 years.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

[Raising hand and waving it frantically] Me ... me ... me ... me !!!!

We send Israel money to defend itself ... and they do defend themselves ... without any help from the U.S. beyond the monetary ...

... we send Israel money to defend itself because Israel is a small, free democratic country ... which has been under attack by much larger tyrannical dictatorships.

You see ... that's the American Way ... we don't like to see free people attacked by tyrants ... we help them fight back. And if they can't fight back ... we do the job for them ... as we did in WWI ... WWII ... Korea ... Vietnam ... Grenada ... Kuwait.

Fortunately ... the 6 million Israelis are quite capable of kicking butt against hundreds of millions of their enemies ... so we've never had to do the fighting for them.

There ... that's the answer you were looking for.

So Israel doesn't have their own money? It didn't look like Ariel Sharon was missing too many meals. Stop with the american way nonsense. It sounds like your first loyalty isn't even to america. Your right we never had to fight for them, people like my grandfather just had to go over and save them from the Nazis. Now groups like AIPAC are lobbying for the US to take on Iran. Maybe groups like AIPAC should realize in america the first priority is america.

If Israel was smart they would move. Find somewhere else to live. Any rational person can see technology will eventually allow some extremists to blow up their little country. It is inevitable.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

[Raising hand and waving it frantically] Me ... me ... me ... me !!!!

We send Israel money to defend itself ... and they do defend themselves ... without any help from the U.S. beyond the monetary ...

... we send Israel money to defend itself because Israel is a small, free democratic country ... which has been under attack by much larger tyrannical dictatorships.

You see ... that's the American Way ... we don't like to see free people attacked by tyrants ... we help them fight back. And if they can't fight back ... we do the job for them ... as we did in WWI ... WWII ... Korea ... Vietnam ... Grenada ... Kuwait.

Fortunately ... the 6 million Israelis are quite capable of kicking butt against hundreds of millions of their enemies ... so we've never had to do the fighting for them.

There ... that's the answer you were looking for.

Really? I can think of a number of other countries that couldnt find their way against worse tyrannies and bullies than the ones that Israel faces.

Why didnt we help the people of Cambodia against Pol Pot or there oppressive neighbors? All we did was bomb them.

Why didnt we help all of those eastern bloc countries in the fifties when all they had were rocks?

Why dont we help the palestinians whose land is being constantly encroached upon by...Israeli settlers????LOL

Why dont we help some of the neighbors to china?

Why is all of this money pouring into Israel?

Question still unanswered.

[timmgirvan]

We've paid billions to the Arabs, and we supplied them with arms and aircraft!

Originally Posted by boldruler

China, France, Belgium, etc, were countries that were part of a world war started by someone else. The US started the war in Iraq. ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?

Are you intentionally mixing apples with oranges as a smokescren ... or don't you realize just how dumb your post is?

China, France, and Belgium were attacked by tyrants. And we went to their aid ... not just with money ... but with troops. So too has Israel been attacked ... again and again I might add ... but in their case we have just sent money and/or supplies. So where do you see a categorical difference in our response to both situations?

And what does the liberation of Iraq ... from a brutal, vicious tyrant ... have to do with this thread? If you want to discuss that ... please start another thread.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

We've paid billions to the Arabs, and we supplied them with arms and aircraft!

THEY HAVE OIL and it stays cheap in return . Is that too difficult for you to figure out. We get something in return. WHAT DO WE GET FROM GIVING MONEY TO ISRAEL? Just headaches.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

We've paid billions to the Arabs, and we supplied them with arms and aircraft!

But we only send the Palestinians sling-shots!

Originally Posted by boldruler

So Israel doesn't have their own money?

So ... France, Belgium, and China didn't have their own money?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

So ... France, Belgium, and China didn't have their own money?

Stay on topic little Johnny! Stay on topic!

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Are you intentionally mixing apples with oranges as a smokescren ... or don't you realize just how dumb your post is?

China, France, and Belgium were attacked by tyrants. And we went to their aid ... not just with money ... but with troops. So too has Israel been attacked ... again and again I might add ... but in their case we have just sent money and/or supplies. So where do you see a categorical difference in our response to both situations?

And what does the liberation of Iraq ... from a brutal, vicious tyrant ... have to do with this thread? If you want to discuss that ... please start another thread.

We aided countries because it benefitted us. Israel should defend itself, just not with my money. Why should a poor/middle class person in america give money to Israel? So a rich person in Israel doesn't have to pay as much in taxes? The US gets nothing for its aid.

Originally Posted by boldruler

If Israel was smart they would move. Find somewhere else to live. Any rational person can see technology will eventually allow some extremists to blow up their little country. It is inevitable.

Yeah ... the French, Belgians, and Chinese should have just moved too.

And Israel's annihilation is about as ineveitable as the world being taken over by communism. Do you remember that little canard ... about how "inevitable" communism was?

You're being delusional again. Communism wasn't inevitable ... and neither is Israel's annihilation.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

But we only send the Palestinians sling-shots!

S2S: we've talked of this before..All that cash doesn't trickle down to the Palestinian people....Arafat and cohorts took care of that. As for Israel, its' riches lay underground in the form of trillions of $$$$ in minerals

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Stay on topic little Johnny! Stay on topic!

It is impossible to stay on topic when you are completely wrong. Giving aid to Israel not only hurts the US taxpayer but also is a strategic liability. The US would have tons more leverage in the world if it just let Israel sink or swim by itself.

When Israel finds oil then we can talk. You would think land given to them by God would have included some oil.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

S2S: we've talked of this before..All that cash doesn't trickle down to the Palestinian people....Arafat and cohorts took care of that. As for Israel, its' riches lay underground in the form of trillions of $$$$ in minerals

Great, well get the dam minerals and stay out of my paycheck. You are delusional about the trillion dollars in minerals anyway. That is funny. I guess nobody got around to getting them. LOL. The US shouldn't give aid to the Palestinians either unless they discover oil.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

S2S: we've talked of this before..All that cash doesn't trickle down to the Palestinian people....Arafat and cohorts took care of that. As for Israel, its' riches lay underground in the form of trillions of $$$$ in minerals

Israeli minerals ... yes.... one of my current favorites is First Israel Fund (ISL). PAid a hefty 10% dividend a few months back.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Really? I can think of a number of other countries that couldnt find their way against worse tyrannies and bullies than the ones that Israel faces.

Why didnt we help the people of Cambodia against Pol Pot or there oppressive neighbors? All we did was bomb them.

Why didnt we help all of those eastern bloc countries in the fifties when all they had were rocks?

Why dont we help the palestinians whose land is being constantly encroached upon by...Israeli settlers????LOL

Why dont we help some of the neighbors to china?

Why is all of this money pouring into Israel?

Question still unanswered.

The question was answered ... you just didn't like the answer.

And maybe you missed it ... but the countries of eastern Europe have all been liberated ... with enormous help from us ... they're all free democracies now ... and your beloved Soviet Union is in the garbage can.

Too bad our efforts on behalf of Cambodia weren't successful at first. Your commie buddies slaughtered innocent people by the millions. But our continued efforts have finally managed to unshackle Cambodia ... and it's well on its way to freedom.

I don't know whom you're referring to as "neighbors to China." We've certainly helped South Korea to be a free, democratic, prosperous country ... and hopefully we'll take care of North Korea some day. Mongolia is also a free democracy. Poor Tibet though has been under the communist boot for over fifty years. Short of nuking Peking ... I don't know what we can do to help them in their remote mountainous country.

And finally ... (whew!) ... the Palestinian's "land" is in Arabia ... a very large and wealthy country. Why don't they "move" there?

Ooops ... I forgot ... the Saud family controls the Arab homeland and they're keeping all its wealth for themselves ... and keeping their Palestinian "brothers" out at the point of a bayonet.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

The question was answered ... you just didn't like the answer.

And maybe you missed it ... but the countries of eastern Europe have all been liberated ... with enormous help from us ... they're all free democracies now ... and your beloved Soviet Union is in the garbage can.

Too bad our efforts on behalf of Cambodia weren't successful at first. Your commie buddies slaughtered innocent people by the millions. But our continued efforts have finally managed to unshackle Cambodia ... and it's well on its way to freedom.

I don't know whom you're referring to as "neighbors to China." We've certainly helped South Korea to be a free, democratic, prosperous country ... and hopefully we'll take care of North Korea some day. Mongolia is also a free democracy. Poor Tibet though has been under the communist boot for over fifty years. Short of nuking Peking ... I don't know what we can do to help them in their remote mountainous country.

And finally ... (whew!) ... the Palestinian's "land" is in Arabia ... a very large and wealthy country. Why don't they "move" there?

Ooops ... I forgot ... the Saud family controls the Arab homeland and they're keeping all its wealth for themselves ... and keeping their Palestinian "brothers" out at the point of a bayonet.

You are so biased it isn't even funny. You are completely irrational. Saudi Arabia has Oil. Israel does not. Why don't you get some of your brilliant scientists do create synthetic oil or something.

For the 30th time now, explain to me how it benefits the US to give billions of aid to a country that has nothing for us. Iraq has oil. I see that. Saudi Arabia oil. Israel- what are they going to give us, sand?

Give me the answer to this question, WHY IS THE AVERAGE AMERICAN GIVING AID TO ISRAEL? SO ISRAELIS DON'T HAVE TO PAY MORE IN TAXES? Just raise Israelis taxes and you can buy all of the American made weapons you want.

Originally Posted by boldruler

THEY HAVE OIL and it stays cheap in return . Is that too difficult for you to figure out. We get something in return. WHAT DO WE GET FROM GIVING MONEY TO ISRAEL? Just headaches.

Ummm ... weren't you in an earlier post inveighing over how expensive oil is?

And I already answered the question as to what we get from giving money to Israel ... but I'll do it again since you didn't understand it the first time ...

What we get is ... the satisfaction of knowing that we've lived up to our American principles ... of defending freedom from tyranny. That may seem less important to you than having gas for your Yugo ... but to people who understand the importance firm principles play in determining the destiny of nations ... it's really much more important than the price of oil.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Great, well get the dam minerals and stay out of my paycheck. You are delusional about the trillion dollars in minerals anyway. That is funny. I guess nobody got around to getting them. LOL. The US shouldn't give aid to the Palestinians either unless they discover oil.

I'm delusional?? Read a book once in a while!