Excuses

[Zippy Chippy]

No problem, boss My point was that you have a number of people who are skeptical about Street Sense because he hasn't made a five-wide trip. The way he runs, he doesn't need to make that outside trip. If the "outside trip" is the standard that is being used to determine if Street Sense is a "great" horse or not, the skeptics may never get a chance to be satisfied.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by Zippy Chippy

No problem, boss My point was that you have a number of people who are skeptical about Street Sense because he hasn't made a five-wide trip. The way he runs, he doesn't need to make that outside trip. If the "outside trip" is the standard that is being used to determine if Street Sense is a "great" horse or not, the skeptics may never get a chance to be satisfied.

Ahh got that one didn't ya ...I know he is a good horse & that helps him get the trip(not being intimidated by going inside & having a powerful move) along with the Jock(also not afraid to run the rail) but what if that rail is finally shut down on the turn & the top of the stretch and there is NO POSSIBLE WAY of getting his preferred trip...Does anyone from the Church of Carl & Calvin care to enlighten us? Does he still win?...place?...show?...OTB? Will going 5-6 wide cause him to "hang" even more? Being that wide will Borel be looking over his shoulder at the pretty ladies in the grandstand instead of the fast closing horsies behind him giving the Deciples even more reasons to blame for losing?
Thanks for your thoughts.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Well he did not have his "preferred" trip in the Preakness, and he lost by a head, while running I believe one of the fastest Preakness's ever. I guess my issue is why can't a great race be appreciated? There were no losers in the race IMO. They both ran their eyeballs out as well as Hard Spun. Isn't this as fans what we want? Good horses running their best against each other? It looks as though Street Sense has no shot in your eyes. When he wins, there is a caveat, he got a perfect trip. He "loses" and is beat a head, and he didn't get his trip.

It was a great race. I enjoyed it thoroughly. SS has a shot every time he steps on the track...no questions asked. Just not sitting in the pew behind you...he wasn't forced outside 3,4,5 horses which is my bottomline question of how will he perform if or when the the situation arises. Will his stretch run be affected or is he "great" or good enough to overcome this obstacle.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Who did you bet in the Derby?

AGS...CQ...HS Win Bets

Many triples including SS...HS in 4 of them for 1st & 2nd(which I posted I probably wouldn't use SS on top but I did anyways)

I just didn't have Curlin on any of them to finish it off but many others which would have made me very, very happy

I was also stupid for not playing the exacta but had 25 people at my house and having my wife pissed at me for it and truthfully forgot what the hell I had bet on my phone account.

Is this relevant to my questions about SS?

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

No it wasn't relevant, and it wasn't a shot, I was just curious. You seem to have some bone to pick with the horse and I was trying to figure out if it's because he has beat you.

I didn't think you did...I don't really have a bone to pick either...I really would like an honest opinion from those who really love the horse or even from those who don't whether or not if he would be the same horse if he doesn't get his trip or close to(which was in the Preakness) and has to make a wide sweeping move around 3,4,5 horses. I don't need an answer like great horses make great trips. Nobody seems to want to answer so I will just leave it alone until it actually happens or when the church doors open again.

[Danzig]

or maybe no one is saying cause no one knows.....
the shortest distance between two points and all that, calvin has done well with this guy. yeah, he got caught, which imo is more of a testament to curlins heart than to street senses lack of.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Honestly your question has been answered. He didn't ride the rail, like you harped on before and after the Derby, in the Preakness. He tipped out, found a seam while tipping at least 4 wide off the turn at Pimlico. He was outrun to the wire, in a very fast time, earning a fast figure. He looked like the same horse to me. Does he prefer the rail, sure. But, why should we discount him for it. He's very good on the rail or off. If I were you, I'd try and get in touch with the connections and tell them that winning races isn't really important. It's figuring out if a horse can move 3,4,5 wide around horses and run the same as if he rides the rail. Let me know what they say.

Thanks...I'll put that call in right away see where it gets me.

[fpsoxfan]

[ when the church doors open again.[/quote]

Church? You don't go to church.

[estreetposse]

[QUOTE=fpsoxfan][ when the church doors open again.[/quote]

Church? You don't go to church.[/quote]

Sorry Deacon Cider

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

[QUOTE=fpsoxfan][ when the church doors open again.

Church? You don't go to church.[/quote]

Sorry Deacon Cider[/quote]

Behold the Wood

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

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Church? You don't go to church.

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Sorry Deacon Cider[/quote]

Behold the Wood[/quote]


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