hillary or osama er bama....

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Bush didn't say or refer to God as a talisman....that is your take on things. And you are the one who looks down his nose at the deluded Christians!

Who is talking about Bush? You are simply refusing to admit what you posted!!?? Go back and read what you posted...you said, "God help us"...that's evoking the Almighty as a talisman...you, not Bush, not me, not Mickey Mouse...YOU!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

While you people are falling all over yourselves in defense of Hillary, God(yeah the Big Guy) help us if this country settles for her!

Here is your original post! "God help us if this country settles for her"...your words!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Here is your original post! "God help us if this country settles for her"...your words!

"God help us" is a prayer...not a talisman! I'm surprised that a man of your education couldn't ferret that out. Oh well...btw...TAKE A MIDOL!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

"God help us" is a prayer...not a talisman! I'm surprised that a man of your education couldn't ferret that out. Oh well...btw...TAKE A MIDOL!

you know...i really tire of comments like these.

[timmgirvan]

Why? Was that sexist?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Why? Was that sexist?

well, yeah imo it was. happens on here too oftne for my taste. put yourself in a womans shoes, tim. posts on here accusing someone of 'acting like a girl'--things like that are used as an insult. because who would want to be a girl...

or maybe i'm just being too sensitive....

[Samarta]

The next occupant of the white house will either be Biden or Mayor Rudy. Not saying anything about supporting either candidate, I just think that's going to be the way it plays out.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

well, yeah imo it was. happens on here too oftne for my taste. put yourself in a womans shoes, tim. posts on here accusing someone of 'acting like a girl'--things like that are used as an insult. because who would want to be a girl...

or maybe i'm just being too sensitive....

On reflecting.....you're right... it was sexist...but not putting down women...more like "stop yer whinin"! I hope that clears it up!

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Timm, why don't you offer some specifics on exactly why you don't like Hilary, instead of just saying "God help us" if she's elected. I can give you specific things about Giuliani and McCain that I don't like, actions that they have taken while elected officials. Offer the same stuff on Hilary, please- which of her positions do you opposed? Otherwise you come across sounding as though you get your talking points from Rush Limbaugh, and he's not known for his journalistic integrity.

I gots news for ya, my friend- politicians are ALL power-mad schemers. It's how they get elected. I find it very sexist of you that you clearly consider that a negative thing in a woman but not a man.

she was already prez once....just ask bill..

[timmgirvan]

Hooves: thank you...thankyouverymuch!

Hillary is a doer. She personally called up many of the major employers in NY and met with them and asked how she could help them hire additional folks to expand business. What was and was not getting in the way. She did some amazing work with Corning. Talked with Union folks backed them down on certain criteria and basically made it easier to hire qualified folks that would help companies. She did an amazing job.

She is extraordinarily capable. Her health care plan was a plan. And the Republican plan... nowhere. She is the one Democrat with a definite ability to GET THINGS DONE. Now you might not like her ideas, but she has ideas. I also believe she has made many credible aquaintances with quality folks that can get jobs done. ONe thing George did a pitiful job of was picking people for what he thought were minor posts that were completely inept friends or political contributors. FEMA turned out not to be so minor. The list is deep.

I think she will pick good people in all spots. Loyality only goes so far, you have got to move competent people into place.

And I probably will not vote for her. Obama is a definite no. I see a great orator, and smart man... but my God he just has NO experience.

Mean people with experience also can get jobs done. Abraham L. put some of his most ardent enemies into major posts because he knew they were terribly capable at things that he needed them for. I know politics does not work this way anymore, and it is sad. CAPABLE people may be better than people who talk YOUR game, but cannot get things done.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I think she will pick good people in all spots. Loyality only goes so far, you have got to move competent people into place.

And I probably will not vote for her. Obama is a definite no. I see a great orator, and smart man... but my God he just has NO experience.

Mean people with experience also can get jobs done. Abraham L. put some of his most ardent enemies into major posts because he knew they were terribly capable at things that he needed them for. I know politics does not work this way anymore, and it is sad. CAPABLE people may be better than people who talk YOUR game, but cannot get things done.

I like Hillary, but all personal likes or dislikes aside I still don't see how anyone can deny the points you've made, that she gets things done and tries to cross the necessary bridges to get there....some people just don't let her over to the other side because party loyalty seems more important these days then getting things done right for the country.

And as for the end of the your post -- I wish it worked that way. I really do. But it's a pipe dream at this point.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

On reflecting.....you're right... it was sexist...but not putting down women...more like "stop yer whinin"! I hope that clears it up!

sorry, tim...had a mammogram today, so i guess i'm a bit grouchy....

[timmgirvan]

Zeig: I hope everything turns out well on your tests!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Zeig: I hope everything turns out well on your tests!

oh, i'm sure it's fine...just routine once a year garbage--you know, like income tax filing. it's a bother, but not fatal...

[Danzig]

and you guys out there have no idea how lucky you are...just imagine your lil buddies getting smooshed flat between two plates. multiple times.

I'm voting for this guy...

[GPK]

this ticket gets my vote

http://cristal.inria.fr/~harley/pics/bnb.experience.gif

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

and you guys out there have no idea how lucky you are...just imagine your lil buddies getting smooshed flat between two plates. multiple times.

And your insides cramping in on themselves once a month. "Midol" comments give me such a flash of contempt for the comment because I think, "Oh, you SO have no idea, you leetle, leetle man." When I was a teenager, mine were so bad I passed out from them once. God bless the Pill.

(Perhaps, Timm, you want to exchange that phrase for, "Is your jockstrap twisted?" or something like that? Tee hee. )

Though it does give us females a high pain threshold; I'll say that. When the "40-Year-Old Virgin" showed the chest wax I thought, "What? Get your pubes waxed and THEN talk to me about pain. Chest. Ha." (I usually read while they're doing my legs because I get bored)

I had a friend faint during a mammogram, Danzig. Props to you for doing it, and I'm not looking forward to having to start in a few years... every gyno I've had has suggested it earlier, because of my medical history, but they don't follow through and I'm not pushing for it!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

oh no. not edwards. he seems so fake!

He does look like a Breck Boy, I'll give you that. But he ran last time on the "Two Americas" platform and I like that, because I do think the economic divide in this country is growing. And, though I like to think I can ignore where someone comes from and focus on what they do, I like that he grew up poor because I think once you've been poor, you don't forget it. I live surrounded by poor people, and while yes, some are just lazy, most of them are working poor, struggling to keep their heads above water and their kids out of trouble. And our current direction is making their lives harder, not easier.

Though I look forward to the deli that is clearly not a deli near us going out of business, if it ever does... that particular form of employment I'd just as soon not have around us...