Albertrani

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Do I even need to comment on this?

no, you dont NEED to comment on anything.
stop talking about the BCS.
why not talk about the 5th at Hollypark on Saturday?


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Originally Posted by repent

the only time I am around horses is when they saddle them and walk them around that ring at Lone Star.

I dont have any interest in horses themselves.

whether a trainer did his job is clear to everyone by the results of the race.
you dont have to know anything about horses to know that.


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Oh good lord. Ok lets see here. I guess Bob Baffert didnt have Point Given ready in the Derby. I guess that Servis didnt have Smarty ready in the Belmont. I guess that Mott didnt have Cigar ready in the Pacific Classic....do I need to go on here. You are cracking me up.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Albetrani didn't f*ck up your pick 4, you did by not including the best horse in the field and the value play of the entire card on your ticket.

I went 7 deep in that race in my pick 3 and I didnt have Invasor. It is bettor error not trainer error.

[repent]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Albetrani didn't f*ck up your pick 4, you did by not including the best horse in the field and the value play of the entire card on your ticket.

yeah,
real clever after the race is run.

maybe you had him.
dont really care b/c its not going to put any money in my pocket.
congrats if you hit the late pick 4, but I dont really care if you did or not.


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[repent]

you guys are crazy.
no freaking way I am going to blame myself.

Im done.
have fun kissing up to Albertrani.


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[docvegas.]

Guys, no matter what happened, both horses were tremendous! Both horses and both trainers deserve our respect for delighting us. It was an great race, and will go down in history books. P.s. hope you guys made money, I did, love that super!!!!!

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by repent

yeah,
real clever after the race is run.

maybe you had him.
dont really care b/c its not going to put any money in my pocket.
congrats if you hit the late pick 4, but I dont really care if you did or not.


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Nope, I didn't have any tickets with both Round Pond and Red Rocks on them although I had Invasor on everything. The difference is I'm not on here saying the trainer didn't do their jobs because my horses got beat or broke down.

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Nope, I didn't have any tickets with both Round Pond and Red Rocks on them although I had Invasor on everything. The difference is I'm not on here saying the trainer didn't do their jobs because my horses got beat or broke down.

well thats you, not me.

do expect everyone to be as mature as you.


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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! post of the day. Spoken like a true child.

I agree--post of the year right there. Got to love the younger generation--they never want accept responsibility and want to blame others. PERFECT

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Hey, hey. Don't judge us by some of our weakest links.

Point taken and I apolgize.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Ha, no need. I see your point.

Next time my low level claiming horse loses I am going to make sure I blame the trainer and to fire him because he didnt do his job.

Sh it happens.

Repent I would expect you to be the last person to sue a company because you burned your crotch after spilling hot coffee on yourself. Many things happen in sports that are completely random and no one is to blame. The ball bounced the wrong way, tough luck.

It is the job of sports announcers to lay blame on a team, player, GM etc... even when events are actually totally random. Very un-Republican of you. A party switch seems imminent.

Again, if Invasor had not entered this race... Cunningham would be able to post again, and Bernardini would enter the top 10 horses of all time. I find this scenario amusing.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Nope, I didn't have any tickets with both Round Pond and Red Rocks on them although I had Invasor on everything. The difference is I'm not on here saying the trainer didn't do their jobs because my horses got beat or broke down.

I had red rocks, round pond and invasor in my late pick four. I just didnt have that damn miesques approval. The funniest thing was that i went deepest in the mile. Go figure. that 48 dime payout really hurt.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He wasn't that either. Invasor had been running against tougher competiton and beating it on the same tracks at the same distance as Bernardini and was running faster times. Everyone thought "but Bernardini could have gone so much faster if he wasn't under a hand ride". Well guess what, we saw what happened when Bernardini had to be ridden hard and it was no better than he ran his other races. Considering his Beyer in the race and a bit of a tougher trip than in his other walks in the park the horse totally ran to the level he has been running all year. Invasor had been slighted all year and elevated his game when he needed to. And he beat Bernardini while going wider and carrying four extra pounds.

you hear the bells and whistles going off? we have a winner folks!! bernardini ran the same race he's been running all year, not worse. the same. and this time it wasn't enough for first, unlike against the cupcakes he's been tackling much of the year. it was almost enough, but you see what happens to 'won going away' when the level of competition is so much better? HE doesn't improve, unlike what many thought. and the gap shrank considerably, as well it should.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by oracle80

What was he gonna say? I got outrun and outtrained? Because that is EXACTLY what happened on Saturday folks, exactly.
He had the benefit of Invasor "having a fever, LOL" and being forced to miss his last prep, while getting Bern his, and Invasor lost tons of ground on a track that was favoring rail running speed and Invasor blew by him with ease.
Kiarin fed him and the most sickeningly overglorified horse in history his nuts for dinner. It was truly a beautiful thing to behold.

LOL. Do you have the tcket from the Songster Saratoga race taped to your mirror?

Originally Posted by SentToStud

LOL. Do you have the tcket from the Songster Saratoga race taped to your mirror?

Stud,
Maybe he SHOULD have at least breezed him in a set maybe even one time, to sorta prepare him for being looked in the eye?
I love starting trouble like this thread by making one post and then going to bed. I woke up and found 70 responses. Its quite amusing.

[Danzig]

the training was fine, bernardini ran like he always did. why can't everyone recognize that? time was the same as his other efforts at this distance, similar beyer--just this time his talent wasn't head and shoulders over the competition. only invasor beat him, not like he was beat a mile, he just couldn't win by his usual margin, because he wasn't facing the same type of horses.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

the training was fine, bernardini ran like he always did. why can't everyone recognize that? time was the same as his other efforts at this distance, similar beyer--just this time his talent wasn't head and shoulders over the competition. only invasor beat him, not like he was beat a mile, he just couldn't win by his usual margin, because he wasn't facing the same type of horses.

Zieg while I agree with everything you wrote(I'm just loving all the Dini is the greatest horse who ever lived nitwits having to sit there and eat ****), fact is that he(Albertrani) had every edge over Invasor(KMC) in that race.
Albertrani wasn't the one who was forced to scratch his horse out of the JCGC, he got his ideal prep.
Kiarin and his brother Neal were forced to prepare Invasor off a WHITNEY LAYOFF!!!!!! And prepare he did!!!

Met Kiarin's brother Neal at a Jiffy Lube up here in Saratoga(already knew Kiarin) the day before I left for Kentucky, it was quite ironic. I had called Kiarin the day before to make an offer on a cheap NY bred he had for a Finger Lakes guy who is a client of mine. I was waiting for them to get done changing my oil and the lady behind the counter said "Mr McLaughlin, your car will be ready in 20 minutes" to the guy across from me. He had on a DUbai World Cup hat and red hair and I just looked at him and said "you just have to be Kiarins brother". He was also getting to travel down to Ky and we chatted about a few things, what a great guy. He said the horse had never trained better in his life, and I hope the folks who I passed that on to in the Friday night chat via telephone link got some.
Trust me, the good guys won that race.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Stud,

I love starting trouble like this thread by making one post and then going to bed. I woke up and found 70 responses. Its quite amusing.

Like the broke cousin who always shows up on Thanksgiving, it's good to know there are things in life you can count on.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Bernardini most certainly did not run well below his previous efforts.
He destroyed a collection of the worlds best dirt horses save for one who only beat him by a length.
Invasor did not run any better than he normally does.
Invasor is as good or better than Bernardini,
The loss was just a loss and not a sign of a poor training job by TA.

Exactly - it's not like Bernardini ran last. He ran a very good race against a very good older horse, but it wasn't enough. Unfortunately, it happens. Tom had no control over how any of the other horses ran in the race. His colt ran terrific, but what was he supposed to do about Invasor? It happens - it's not Bernardini ran up the track.