mitt, mitt, mitt

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by jms62

I like Ron Paul and given the test I posted awhile back (forgot the link) my take on the issues clearly supported him and Obama next. I'm not your typical idiot that has blinkers on will vote republican just becuase they picked Romney over Paul. Anyone in the middle class voting for Romney really is voting against themselves.

I just can't fathom a vote for Obama over Romney - for me the more and more movement I see towards more government involvement is just something I can not endorse.

But I respect your view...I guess if we had a viable 3rd party option more like Paul I could see myself looking in that direction.

For me personally, it probably won't make much difference who wins.

I don't see the open opportunities for those starting or early in their careers, like I experienced. By any measure they are SOL.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by geeker2

I just can't fathom a vote for Obama over Romney - for me the more and more movement I see towards more government involvement is just something I can not endorse.

But I respect your view...I guess if we had a viable 3rd party option more like Paul I could see myself looking in that direction.

For me personally, it probably won't make much difference who wins.

I don't see the open opportunities for those starting or early in their careers, like I experienced. By any measure they are SOL.

Virtually ZERO opportunities for grads going into debt 200-300 K.. Sad. You still didn't answer my question. What is more government? THere are less government employees then when Bush was in office so what does More government mean?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by jms62

Virtually ZERO opportunities for grads going into debt 200-300 K.. Sad. You still didn't answer my question. What is more government? THere are less government employees then when Bush was in office so what does More government mean?

Didn't see your question I was to busy composing my response.

I see it more as regulations and not so much as government employees albeit one begets the other eventually.

Look at all the rules and regulations you have imposed upon your personal freedoms. File this form, pay this fee, wait you can't do that without this approval and this fee and this form and oh wait you need this approval before you can do that....pay this fee....

When I look at all the money our company wastes on complying to regulations that were never fully thought out and were passed just because someone decided that they wanted to protect us from ourselves, it makes me want to puke.

So when I say get gov out of my life I mean all these foolish regs and requirements that seems to just pile up and pile up and we never ever revisit. It's almost that we need to clean the slate and start over.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Didn't see your question I was to busy composing my response.

I see it more as regulations and not so much as government employees albeit one begets the other eventually.

Look at all the rules and regulations you have imposed upon your personal freedoms. File this form, pay this fee, wait you can't do that without this approval and this fee and this form and oh wait you need this approval before you can do that....pay this fee....

When I look at all the money our company wastes on complying to regulations that were never fully thought out and were passed just because someone decided that they wanted to protect us from ourselves, it makes me want to puke.

So when I say get gov out of my life I mean all these foolish regs and requirements that seems to just pile up and pile up and we never ever revisit. It's almost that we need to clean the slate and start over.

Sorry the only personal freedoms I have lost is at the airport. As far as regulations on business goes look were we are now due to lax regs on the banks. Left to fend for themselves business would destroy the world for a few extra cents to the bottom line to fill the pockets of the Pig sitting in the corner office.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by jms62

Sorry the only personal freedoms I have lost is at the airport. As far as regulations on business goes look were we are now due to lax regs on the banks. Left to fend for themselves business would destroy the world for a few extra cents to the bottom line to fill the pockets of the Pig sitting in the corner office.

So I guess in the end you get what you ask for....keep looking to the gov for the answer and that is what you will get..more gov.

Like I said for me - it probably doesn't matter

[jms62]

Originally Posted by geeker2

So I guess in the end you get what you ask for....keep looking to the gov for the answer and that is what you will get..more gov.

Like I said for me - it probably doesn't matter

Typical response. I guess you haven't seen business/banks **** things up enough in your lifetime you want to speed things up a bit by having no regulations whatsoever. That'll worlk

Romney supporters are basically all Gabby Johnsons.

They can rant but it's mostly indecipherable. Frontier gibberish.

People who pay full price for Viagra. Pseudo tough guys eating soy and growing man boobs.

Pussies.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Romney supporters are basically all Gabby Johnsons.

They can rant but it's mostly indecipherable. Frontier gibberish.

People who pay full price for Viagra. Pseudo tough guys eating soy and growing man boobs.

Pussies.

LOL ... as opposed to all those "real men" supporting Obama. Go get the rainbow tattoo and be done with it already.

Originally Posted by joeydb

LOL ... as opposed to all those "real men" supporting Obama. Go get the rainbow tattoo and be done with it already.

As opposed to staying in the closet and trolling craigslist for cock like you do, phony tough guy?

You're an imbecile and a sheep. I'm a libertarian. Would never vote for either candidate because I stand for common sense, not war and hatred.

Plus we all know chicken hawks are the gayest.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by jms62

Typical response. I guess you haven't seen business/banks **** things up enough in your lifetime you want to speed things up a bit by having no regulations whatsoever. That'll worlk

that's not what I said...not sure why you feel the need to be such a dick head.

Life isn't absolute...do we need regs - yes - my point is at what point do we take a deep breath and actually look at what we are doing. But to just keep piling on these regs and think we are doing something good - seems to be a huge mistake to me.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by geeker2

that's not what I said...not sure why you feel the need to be such a dick head.

Life isn't absolute...do we need regs - yes - my point is at what point do we take a deep breath and actually look at what we are doing. But to just keep piling on these regs and think we are doing something good - seems to be a huge mistake to me.

Dude.. You are the one that made the broad bold statement but aren't able to give any specifics. You are the one that said you want government out of your life but are unable to provide any specifics where they are hampering your life. As far as your regs at work go, do you for a nano-second think that once Romney gets in office that'll change? Only thing that will change is your taxes will go up and his down. You think the real estate market is bad just wait until he eliminates mortgage deduction. Both suck that is for certain but Romney doesn't even pretend to represent the common man.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by jms62

You think the real estate market is bad just wait until he eliminates mortgage deduction.

To be fair, his tax policy is to eliminate the mortgage deduction on 2nd homes, not primary residences.

He is however going right after the your State Income Tax and Real Estate Tax deductions which is going to impact virtually every single middle income family financially, all the while decreasing corporate tax rates and extending the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, indefinitely.

Not exactly a man of the people.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

As opposed to staying in the closet and trolling craigslist for cock like you do, phony tough guy?

You're an imbecile and a sheep. I'm a libertarian. Would never vote for either candidate because I stand for common sense, not war and hatred.

Plus we all know chicken hawks are the gayest.

Welcome to irrelevancy since you don't vote for one of the parties that can actually win an election.

As far as your other hobbies you list above, they're all yours. Have fun.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by jms62

Dude.. You are the one that made the broad bold statement but aren't able to give any specifics. You are the one that said you want government out of your life but are unable to provide any specifics where they are hampering your life. As far as your regs at work go, do you for a nano-second think that once Romney gets in office that'll change? Only thing that will change is your taxes will go up and his down. You think the real estate market is bad just wait until he eliminates mortgage deduction. Both suck that is for certain but Romney doesn't even pretend to represent the common man.

Like I said from my view Romney represents less government intrusion into my life than Obama. Whether I could put enough words on a piece of paper that would satisfy you - not going to try

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Like I said from my view Romney represents less government intrusion into my life than Obama. Whether I could put enough words on a piece of paper that would satisfy you - not going to try

You mean when Congress (not Obama, actually, he can't make laws) prevented your insurance company from kicking you off your policy? Yeah, that's one government intrusion into your life. I'll give you that one.

Where he's forcing you to pay women equally to men? Yeah, you're right. Big government intrusion there.

Where he's prevented gays from being kicked out of the military just for being gay? Yeah, that's another big government intrusion in your life.

Where, in exchange for the auto bailout, he forced the auto companies to increase the mileage cars get on a gallon of gas? That was a terrible government intrusion that cuts our gasoline costs in half by 2025!

Now, Romney promises, day one, to eliminate your insurance company not being able to overcharge you, re-enables the insurance company to kick you off your policy at their whim - that's a freedom to suffer you need to vote for

And the Romney Budget immediately increases our debt by $5 trillion unfunded dollars due to unfunded tax breaks for the wealthy! Yay! Romney2012! Vote for this!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Welcome to irrelevancy since you don't vote for one of the parties that can actually win an election.As far as your other hobbies you list above, they're all yours. Have fun.

this is the mindset that keeps real change from occurring.