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Old 08-05-2012, 05:16 PM
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I'm not sure how you conclude that off of that effort. It is possible, but she'll need a big boost from dirt and/or Lasix.
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I understand that Amani has upside, but you seem to have seen something in yesterday's Clement Hirsch that I'd love for you to explain a bit.
Kingie with all the respect and affection in the world I'm kinda wondering what these guys are...
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:17 PM
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The champion 2yo from last year might turn out to be a pretty decent horse too. I think she returns to the races in a few days at the Spa.
She has a name you know.

Kinda like her Mom.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:18 PM
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The champion 2yo from last year might turn out to be a pretty decent horse too. I think she returns to the races in a few days at the Spa.
A precocious 2 year old that is just making it back to the races in August of her 3 year old year for Asmussen. What's the over/under on races she has left in her career...2 or 3?
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:18 PM
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Really? You haven't heard of...

Royal Delta
It's Tricky
Include Me Out
Grace Hall
Questing

That's assuming Awesome Feather is not a racehorse anymore and that Potesta will make no progress.

I understand that Amani has upside, but you seem to have seen something in yesterday's Clement Hirsch that I'd love for you to explain a bit.
Royal Delta did not impress me at all last out. Grace Hall? It's Tricky? Certainly more accomplished here in the U.S. but I haven't seen anything from them to make me look at them as unbeatable Questing is an interesting one as she's not seemed to show her ceiling while the others have, IMO. From what I saw yesterday, Include Me Out doesn't beat her going longer, especially with Amani having gotten one under her belt. We'll see.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:19 PM
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A precocious 2 year old that is just making it back to the races in August of her 3 year old year for Asmussen. What's the over/under on races she has left in her career...2 or 3?
I can't remember how bad her injuury was.

Anyone?
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:21 PM
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Royal Delta did not impress me at all last out.
I was more impressed in her last race than the open workout she had at CD.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:25 PM
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A precocious 2 year old that is just making it back to the races in August of her 3 year old year for Asmussen. What's the over/under on races she has left in her career...2 or 3?
Good points, which I overlooked.

Just sayin though!
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:01 PM
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Royal Delta is head and shoulders the best female dirt horse in the world.

As much as I like this Chile filly, it's very premature to think she can beat Royal Delta in a fairly run race.

If Jeff Mullins had the Chile filly, maybe you could jump the gun.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:43 AM
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Good points, which I overlooked.

Just sayin though!
I hope she comes back better than ever....because she's good.

I'm just skeptical and I'm sure you can appreciate that.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:17 AM
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I hope she comes back better than ever....because she's good.

I'm just skeptical and I'm sure you can appreciate that.
I don't have a skeptical bone in my body.
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:27 AM
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Next start is in the Pacific Classic.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:28 AM
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Next start is in the Pacific Classic.
I've always thought of Drysdale as a really conservative trainer. This tells me that he really likes this filly.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:49 AM
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I was hoping to see her on dirt.

That's an aggressive spot -- even if 10 furlongs should suit her.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:28 PM
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Royal Delta is head and shoulders the best female dirt horse in the world.

As much as I like this Chile filly, it's very premature to think she can beat Royal Delta in a fairly run race.

If Jeff Mullins had the Chile filly, maybe you could jump the gun.
What did you think about Royal Delta today? I mentioned that Royal Delta's last didn't impress me and I think she's continuing to go the other way.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:46 PM
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What did you think about Royal Delta today? I mentioned that Royal Delta's last didn't impress me and I think she's continuing to go the other way.
Royal Delta's race will look fine on a sheet -- as Smith had her wide the whole way and she gave the winner 10lbs at 9 furlongs (abt 3.75 lengths in weight on Thoro-Graph and Ragozin)

It wasn't the good Royal Delta, though. Certainly not the one we've seen at Churchill Downs in the Ladies Classic or at Chuchill on the Foster undercard this year.
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What did you think about Royal Delta today? I mentioned that Royal Delta's last didn't impress me and I think she's continuing to go the other way.
what did you think of Amani today?
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:40 PM
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what did you think of Amani today?
Hype
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:42 PM
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I do hope we get to see her on dirt at least.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:53 PM
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what did you think of Amani today?
I thought she looked like garbage. That's how I'll view her now. I'm not an excuse maker. She didn't run against much and she didn't run like much. Maybe she can do better on dirt but today was dreadful.
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I thought she looked like garbage. That's how I'll view her now. I'm not an excuse maker. She didn't run against much and she didn't run like much. Maybe she can do better on dirt but today was dreadful.
Don't you think she maybe lacked room when others were beginning to make their moves?
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