OWS Zucotti Park

[dellinger63]

NYC/OWS protesters trying to shut down the subway system this morning.

Do these fools realize it is the 99% that utilize the train to get to work/school and the one percent either limo or fly in via helicopter?

They should do themselves a favor and stay in the private park except don't tell them they're living on land owned by a billion dollar real estate development firm.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

NYC/OWS protesters trying to shut down the subway system this morning.

Do these fools realize it is the 99% that utilize the train to get to work/school and the one percent either limo or fly in via helicopter?

They should do themselves a favor and stay in the private park except don't tell them they're living on land owned by a billion dollar real estate development firm.

Not to mention that they really are hurting a lot of small buisnesses that are in the downtown area.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Today, Newt is talking about a Gingrich-Cain ticket. I think that's the "book sales" tour.

Here is a fantastic video interview with the 84-year-old, Dorli, who was pepper sprayed at Occupy Seattle (along with some pretty damning police brutality pictures). She talks also about being in German/Austria in WW2, listening to Goebbles propaganda. Amazing stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=ENfWJzXVD0Q#!

http://news.yahoo.com/pregnant-teen-...113054448.html

"Pepper spray was deployed only against subjects who were either refusing a lawful order to disperse or engaging in assaultive behavior toward officers," Kappel wrote on the department's blog.

Kappel also noted that one man threw an "unknown liquid" at an officer's face and was arrested. The officer was not injured.

In another incident, Kappel said a 17-year-old woman swung a stick at an officer, and as police moved to arrest her, others tried to intervene on her behalf, prompting a blast of pepper spray.

Authorities arrested at least six people before quickly restoring order.




...now, i know it's fashionable these days to put all the onus on the police, but i don't know that to do so is telling the entire story. protesters have every right to do their thing. they don't however have the right to break the law. if they cross the line, there will be repercussions. i have to say that every time i've seen another headline blaring 'police attack' or something along those lines, when you read the article...the details explain just why they did what they did.
and as i said elsewhere, the police aren't the ones in control-the city leaders are. if they order the police to disperse a crowd, etc, they're going to do just that.

[GPK]

I can't wait to go downtown tomorrow and see if Occupy Roanoke has exceeded 25 people.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Not to mention that they really are hurting a lot of small buisnesses that are in the downtown area.

Maybe...just maybe, this is a very selfish collection of individuals who just all happen to be in the same place. As opposed to an actual "movement".
Offer one $1MM cash to leave his friends behind and occupy some nice house/restaurant/piece of tail. See how quickly they would run.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

...now, i know it's fashionable these days to put all the onus on the police, but i don't know that to do so is telling the entire story.

It's fashionable when there are actual videos of what is going down.

For example, a cop pushed a protester off a 4' tall planter in Dallas. The police denied anything happened - until the police chief checked YouTube and saw citizen videos, the officer push the guy off for no reason. Officer is immediately suspended. Chief apologized to pushed guy.

Oakland police denied any culpability. Multiple videos show differently. ACLU filed police brutality charges against Oakland PD.

Berkely PD say they didn't do anything to protesters - but multiple videos show protesters standing still, and police rushing them and hitting in belly with truncheons.

You have to realize, that ABC, NBC, CBS, etc is NOT covering this. For example, right now, Occupy Wall Street is outside the NYSE. You can watch a no-audio helicopter view of some ants from WABC in NY, or you can march on the ground with the protesters, with Tim Pool, here, live for the day, with narration: http://www.ustream.tv/theother99#utm...medium=9488285

LOL - WABC is showing an empty Zuccotti park - but right now all the protesters are at the Stock Exchange, and it's only being shown on protester live cams.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

NYC/OWS protesters trying to shut down the subway system this morning.

Do these fools realize it is the 99% that utilize the train to get to work/school and the one percent either limo or fly in via helicopter?

They should do themselves a favor and stay in the private park except don't tell them they're living on land owned by a billion dollar real estate development firm.

No. They are not trying to "shut down the subway system". They are going to Occupy multiple stations, and ride trains, and try to talk to people about the movement.

At 5:00pm, Occupy across the country are going to occupy bridges, to try and stress the danger of our crumbling bridges, needed infrastructure repairs and jobs that could be created to repair them.

Of course, the MSM doesn't report any of this stuff accurately or in detail, really.

[Riot]

This is unbelievable - the protesters are now leaving Wall Street to regroup at Zuccotti, and the MSM isn't even showing it .... nothing to see here, just a bunch of dirty hippies, pay no attention sheeple ....

BBC is showing. Ustream is showing. US media? nothing.

40 arrests today in march to Wall Street. Police pushing and shoving. A retired Detroit police officer was arrested in uniform - the NYPD tried to get him to walk away, but he would not, and made them arrest him.

Tim Poole saw a cop pull out a baton and full-force rap a man in the femur, a man was just standing there.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

This is unbelievable - the protesters are now leaving Wall Street to regroup at Zuccotti, and the MSM isn't even showing it .... nothing to see here, just a bunch of dirty hippies, pay no attention sheeple ....

Could it be the main stream media caters to the main stream?

And that the main stream sees the protesters as a bunch of spoiled, whining brats attempting to assign blame for their failures on anyone but themselves?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Could it be the main stream media caters to the main stream?

And that the main stream sees the protesters as a bunch of spoiled, whining brats attempting to assign blame for their failures on anyone but themselves?

The main stream media answers to the rich and powerful...not main stream America. This is the 60's all over, the "main stream" media actually did pay some attention to the Civil Rights Movement cause the Northern folks wanted to feel superior, but when it came to the Peace Movement, we heard the same crap as is coming from some on this board now...dirty, lazy hippies and cowards to boot.
It goes with the territory, challenge the powerful and their whores will attack you at every turn.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

The main stream media answers to the rich and powerful...not main stream America. This is the 60's all over, the "main stream" media actually did pay some attention to the Civil Rights Movement cause the Northern folks wanted to feel superior, but when it came to the Peace Movement, we heard the same crap as is coming from some on this board now...dirty, lazy hippies and cowards to boot.
It goes with the territory, challenge the powerful and their whores will attack you at every turn.

If that's the case, then how would you describe the coverage of Obama's run to the Presidency in 2008?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

The main stream media answers to the rich and powerful...not main stream America..

Never realized it is the rich and powerful that are so into who killed Casey Anthony, who got kicked off Dancing with the Stars and the dead Michael Jackson's physician.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

If that's the case, then how would you describe the coverage of Obama's run to the Presidency in 2008?

He is a main stream President who ran as a main stream candidate, no threat to Wall Street and the rich (his actions more than prove that), McCain was a bit of a wild card and not trusted completely by the power elite, and Palin...my God! For the most part, news agencies cover elections pretty fairly as there is seldom much to choose from regarding the candidates. Notice how Paul is pretty much ignored by the media, I don't agree with a lot of his views but I can see that he's treated like poison.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Never realized it is the rich and powerful that are so into who killed Casey Anthony, who got kicked off Dancing with the Stars and the dead Michael Jackson's physician.

Of course not, but it fills a news cast so Occupy Wall Street can be ignored. Casey Anthony, Michael Jackson and DWTS is fluff to satisfy the minds of the public so they don't focus on their own lives. Think about it, mindless "entertainment" is a narcotic to the general public...rich folks would much rather water cooler discussions focus on who got kicked off DWTS rather than looking critically at the mess this country is in!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Could it be the main stream media caters to the main stream?

And that the main stream sees the protesters as a bunch of spoiled, whining brats attempting to assign blame for their failures on anyone but themselves?

Uh, you realize that journalism isn't based upon passive-aggressive feelings of hate and inadequacy? Projecting a little there, huh

[Riot]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

If that's the case, then how would you describe the coverage of Obama's run to the Presidency in 2008?

I know you addressed that to Somer, but good lord, the contrast between Obama and Caribou Barbie of Hate was stark. Obama couldn't help but look good! Especially when McCain's campaign was the one that labeled him a celebrity

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

He is a main stream President who ran as a main stream candidate, no threat to Wall Street and the rich (his actions more than prove that), McCain was a bit of a wild card and not trusted completely by the power elite, and Palin...my God! For the most part, news agencies cover elections pretty fairly as there is seldom much to choose from regarding the candidates. Notice how Paul is pretty much ignored by the media, I don't agree with a lot of his views but I can see that he's treated like poison.

Hasn't that changed since the election? The guy was treated like a rock star. His whole platform was Change and more imprtantly I'm not Bush, the media never called him out on anything.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Not to mention that with the amount of dollars in donations, this miscreant crowd is now a "one percenter".

Good thing, seeing the NYPD threw out their computers, slashed their big tents and sawed their tent poles (on the big army tents) into pieces to destroy them.

See, this is America, and even if one thinks protesters are miscreants, or (strangely) "spoiled, whining brats attempting to assign blame for their failures on anyone but themselves" - they are American citizens, and peaceful protest, such as walking along a street chanting, is allowed.

Well, it used to be.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

The main stream media answers to the rich and powerful...not main stream America. This is the 60's all over, the "main stream" media actually did pay some attention to the Civil Rights Movement cause the Northern folks wanted to feel superior, but when it came to the Peace Movement, we heard the same crap as is coming from some on this board now...dirty, lazy hippies and cowards to boot.
It goes with the territory, challenge the powerful and their whores will attack you at every turn.

At some point you may realize that there isnt much newsworthy that happens at these Occupy places unless it involves somebody taking a dive trying to hit the police brutality lottery ticket.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Hasn't that changed since the election? The guy was treated like a rock star. His whole platform was Change and more imprtantly I'm not Bush, the media never called him out on anything.