Best 3 yr old in the country

[gales0678]

Not counting the fillies if the vote was held today Mine That Bird would be my vote.

If he wins the Belmont , i don't see how that wouldn't lock up the title after that race - 2 wins and a second in the TC would have to make him a lock for 3 yr old colt of the year no?

[Danzig]

not necessarily. there are some good horses on the sidelines that could be heard from throughout the year. i'd say he's the front runner right now.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not necessarily. there are some good horses on the sidelines that could be heard from throughout the year. i'd say he's the front runner right now.

who is going to beat him - if he wins two legs of the TC and a 2nd in the Preakness - expalin to me how he could not get it if the above plays out , aren't those 3 races the most important for 3 yr old colts for the year - he would have 2 wins and a 2nd

even if quality road comes back and wins the travers and a few other races - how would it be right for MTB not to get the award?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

who is going to beat him - if he wins two legs of the TC and a 2nd in the Preakness - expalin to me how he could not get it if the above plays out , aren't those 3 races the most important for 3 yr old colts for the year - he would have 2 wins and a 2nd

even if quality road comes back and wins the travers and a few other races - how would it be right for MTB not to get the award?

i'm not arguing right or wrong. but horses have won tc races, and then not got top 3 yo. that's why i'm saying it's not a lock. obviously he's the front runner now. besides, he has to win another tc race for the first part of your scenario to be factual.

as for quality road, or other horses who missed the spring classics, there are still plenty of races out there. there's taking on older horses in the fall, and of course the bcc.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm not arguing right or wrong. but horses have won tc races, and then not got top 3 yo. that's why i'm saying it's not a lock. obviously he's the front runner now. besides, he has to win another tc race for the first part of your scenario to be factual.

i know that my case is hinged on him winning the belmont , a tall order but , in my opinion winning 2 of 3 and running 2nd to a super filly in the 3rd leg should make him an automatic lock

if he doesn't get if the above plays out , it' an injustice - in my opinion

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i know that my case is hinged on him winning the belmont , a tall order but , in my opinion winning 2 of 3 and running 2nd to a super filly in the 3rd leg should make him an automatic lock

if he doesn't get if the above plays out , it' an injustice - in my opinion

it's may. you might want to see how the year unfolds before making your eclipse selections-that's all i'm saying. you might be thinking differently by years' end.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by gales0678

Not counting the fillies if the vote was held today Mind That Bird would be my vote.

If he wins the Belmont , i don't see how that wouldn't lock up the title after that race - 2 wins and a second in the TC would have to make him a lock for 3 yr old colt of the year no?

For the love of God....it is M-I-N-E That Bird! Why can't people get a simple name like this right?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

For the love of God....it is M-I-N-E That Bird! Why can't people get a simple name like this right?

it has been edited

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by gales0678

it has been edited

Now that it has been fixed, I can respond. No way does a Belmont win lock up 3 year old of the year. He has not won another race all year, and might have to do more if some other horse goes on a hot streak later. He certainly has a leg up on the competition.

[blackthroatedwind]

I will reserve comment until Summer Colony a Pole checks in.

[Thunder Gulch]

If- big, big if- MTB wins the Belmont, I think it would take an already accomplished 3yo winning the Classic to beat him for the 3yo colt Eclipse. The only 3yo colts who have enough on their resume now to even talk about getting in the mix later in the year are Quality Road, I Want Revenge, POTN, Musket Man, and Friesan Fire. If one of those were to win the Travers, another top race, and the Classic, it would be close. If QR or IWR came back with strong summer/fall campaigns, they would certainly have to be considered especially if they beat MTB head to head in races.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

For the love of God....it is M-I-N-E That Bird! Why can't people get a simple name like this right?

'cause he got beat by Rachel ALEXANDER

[gales0678]

i maybe jumping the gun but at this point i guess it's safe to say he is the top 3 yr old of the year for colts - and we still have a good 5 months of racing ahead of us - it's his to lose now

[Indian Charlie]

tiznow.

ever heard of him?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

tiznow.

ever heard of him?

exactly who i was thinking of when i said a horse didn't have to win a tc race to win the eclipse.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by robfla

'cause he got beat by Rachel ALEXANDER

Rachel Alexander is the maiden name of Rachel Nichols.

And for the record ... I'd toss her salad.