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Old 08-08-2006, 10:36 PM
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I'm telling you, Rising Cross is the real deal....

I am firing a load at her.
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:37 PM
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Don't too much fancy Marty Dwyer though, I'm not sure why he is the one coming.

I'll say one thing for him though, that ride on Sir Percy in the Derby showed a lot of determination and balls to come up the rail like that and nip them all at the wire.

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Old 08-08-2006, 11:01 PM
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I'm telling you, Rising Cross is the real deal....

I am firing a load at her.
Well this means we'll just bet the Million and not the Beverly D since we both know who the winner is.
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Old 08-09-2006, 10:42 AM
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For the love of God how much longer till they announce who has the mount?

Must go have another panic attack.....
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:06 PM
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MMSC,

Do you think Ace's chances might be ruined depending on where he ends up in the field. He seemed pretty rank the last couple of times I have seen him run over in England, and not interested at all in rating.

Maybe they should just let that thing go to the front with The Tin Man and see what happens.
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Here's what I understand to be our Million field. Not 100% sure on this (but pretty damn close)

1. Major Rythm (30-1)
2. The Tin Man (10-1)
3. Ace (5-1)
4. Touch of Land (15-1)
5. Soldier Hollow (15-1)
6. Phoenix Reach (5-1)
7. Cosmonaut (20-1)
8. Better Talk Now (6-1)
9. Go Deputy (15-1)
10. Cacique (4-1)
11. English Channel (3-1)
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Here's what I understand to be our Million field. Not 100% sure on this (but pretty damn close)

1. Major Rythm (30-1)
2. The Tin Man (10-1)
3. Ace (5-1)
4. Touch of Land (15-1)
5. Soldier Hollow (15-1)
6. Phoenix Reach (5-1)
7. Cosmonaut (20-1)
8. Better Talk Now (6-1)
9. Go Deputy (15-1)
10. Cacique (4-1)
11. English Channel (3-1)
Where did you see this? English Channel is coming if this is the case. You don't want to draw the 1 or the two hole in this race, unless you are a closer
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:31 PM
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Where did you see this? English Channel is coming if this is the case. You don't want to draw the 1 or the two hole in this race, unless you are a closer
http://thoroughbredchampions.com/for...p?topic=6213.0

From here. Like I said not 100% on this but the original poster is legit and havent seen them wrong yet on this kind of thing. DRF should have it up soon.
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http://thoroughbredchampions.com/for...p?topic=6213.0

From here. Like I said not 100% on this but the original poster is legit and havent seen them wrong yet on this kind of thing. DRF should have it up soon.
I just looked at that. Showing Up got a **** draw, that 1 hole is a pain going 10 furlongs on the lawn, unless they put it all the way on the outside, which is possible

The Beverly D looks amazing....I am guessing English Channel comes because Go Deputy would scratch and he will get the ultimate trip from the 10 hole(with go deputy scratching)
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I just looked at that. Showing Up got a **** draw, that 1 hole is a pain going 10 furlongs on the lawn, unless they put it all the way on the outside, which is possible

The Beverly D looks amazing....I am guessing English Channel comes because Go Deputy would scratch and he will get the ultimate trip from the 10 hole(with go deputy scratching)
Posts will mean nothing in a 6 horse turf race going 10f. The racing will all be done in the final 1/4. SU will get a nice rail trip the entire way and then mow down the leader, or he will just go gate to wire. Go Between will put in a nice run and finish 3 back.

One of us heard English Channel is going to Arlington.
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Posts will mean nothing in a 6 horse turf race going 10f. The racing will all be done in the final 1/4. SU will get a nice rail trip the entire way and then mow down the leader, or he will just go gate to wire. Go Between will put in a nice run and finish 3 back.

One of us heard English Channel is going to Arlington.

Do you have ANY idea how the gate is set up for a 10 furlong race at Arlington?

I am guessing NO

So to clue you in, the 1 hole has about 100 feet before you run into the rail, MORE TIMES then not you start out last, you either GUN and pray or you break last, start last....It is a horrible draw for him, he is lucky it is only a 6 horse field because he is going to be 10 lengths last most likely.

he will still win, but that draw doesn't help him whatsoever
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Do you have ANY idea how the gate is set up for a 10 furlong race at Arlington?

I am guessing NO

So to clue you in, the 1 hole has about 100 feet before you run into the rail, MORE TIMES then not you start out last, you either GUN and pray or you break last, start last....It is a horrible draw for him, he is lucky it is only a 6 horse field because he is going to be 10 lengths last most likely.

he will still win, but that draw doesn't help him whatsoever
Who cares if he got lucky that it is only a 6 horse field? That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. It is what it is and he can win from the front or the back.

10 lengths last? You are a clueless person. Clueless. Please explain to me how the race plays out. Let me guess, you haven't even seen the PP's but you know what is going to happen. Hilarious.
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Who cares if he got lucky that it is only a 6 horse field? That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. It is what it is and he can win from the front or the back.

10 lengths last? You are a clueless person. Clueless.
LOL, unless he guns to the lead, watch..I might be wrong but the 1 hole going 10 furlongs means gun or risk getting shuffled all the way to the back

Glad to see you are so well versed with the Arlington Oval, why don't you 'show up' this weekend and teach me a thing or two
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Go Between has a legit shot at beating Showing Up with that lousy post draw he got.
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One of us heard English Channel is going to Arlington.
One of us? How many you got cooped up in there?
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:44 PM
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MMSC,

Do you think Ace's chances might be ruined depending on where he ends up in the field. He seemed pretty rank the last couple of times I have seen him run over in England, and not interested at all in rating.

Maybe they should just let that thing go to the front with The Tin Man and see what happens.
To be fair though, he seemed that way in the Prince of Wales's Stakes and the Coronation Cup but NOT in the Ladbrokes International..... very professional there!

Does Ouija Board intimidate him?
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:57 PM
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THIS IS FROM SPORTING LIFE!!!!!

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FALLON DECLARED FOR ACE
By PA Sport Staff


The major news to emerge from the draw for the 24th running of the Arlington Million and its two supporting races was that Kieren Fallon has been declared on Aidan O'Brien's Ace and Ivan Denisovich.

The Irish jockey is scheduled to arrive in Chicago on Thursday, but it remains unclear if he will receive his licence to ride at Arlington Park.

It appears the Illinois Racing Board has to make the decision whether he will be able to ride or not, although it had been previously thought he would be unable to ride in the state following the decision of the Horseracing Regulatory Authority to ban him from riding in Britain.

Ace was drawn three in the Arlington Million, while the other British contender Phoenix Reach, trained by Andrew Balding, has drawn number six.

Touch of Land, trained by Henri-Alex Pantall in France is drawn four, with the German raider Soldier Hollow in five.

Current favourite is the Todd Pletcher-trained English Channel, who is drawn in stall 11.

Andreas Christou, Phoenix Reach's owner, said: "Phoenix Reach has been back in training for two months. It is quite easy to train a horse again from scratch in England, as we have hills, different gallops and lots of terrain to get a horse fit.

"He is a gifted horse and I have always believed that a gifted horse will tell the trainer when he is ready."

Although the European trainers have not yet arrived at Arlington Park, they will hardly be upset about the draw of their contenders, all drawn on the inside.

As to Ivan Denisovich, one of six runners in the Secretariat Stakes, Pat Keating, head lad at Ballydoyle, said: "He has travelled well and we are very happy with him. He will suit the track. He ran well in the St James's Palace Stakes and showed then that he should get the extra furlong without any problem.

"He is drawn five and that shouldn't be any problem."

The William Haggas-trained Primary is drawn four in that race, while the 7-5 favourite Showing Up is drawn in stall number one.

A total of 11 fillies and mares will line up for the Beverly D. Stakes, which has only attracted one European runner, the John Best-trained Rising Cross, who runs in the colours of Gary Tanaka.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:24 PM
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Arlington barn notes....

FATE FIGURES WITH PHOENIX REACH’S OWNER
Irish-bred Phoenix Reach – one of the premier European candidates for Saturday’s Arlington Million XXIV – is owned by English-based Andrew Christou, who races in the nom-de-course of Winterbeck Manor Stud.

Christou made his first visit to Arlington Park Wednesday morning to watch Phoenix Reach accomplish his latest gallop over the main track with Steve Woolley in the irons. His bay 6-year-old charge – winner of the 2003 Grade I Canadian International, the 2004 Group I Hong Kong Vase and the 2005 Grade I Dubai Sheema Classic – will be making his first start in just over a year in Saturdays’ Grade I Million.

“I’m quite young in the business,” said Christou, “but, fortunately, we’ve been very successful. We can’t have a big setup where we are (Vale of Belvoir in Lincolnshire) but we have about 12 mares and have invested millions in youngsters trying to get good mares that way.

“I believe in fate and I believe in dreams –and I dreamed we were going to get the three post in the draw today,” said Christou later in the day immediately after the post position draw. “It got down to the last two post positions and we drew the six and Ace drew the three, but that’s all right, because we have a half-sister to Ace at home, so maybe that’s why I dreamed about the three post. It’s a good situation for me even if Ace were to win instead of us.

“Andrew (Balding, Phoenix Reach’s trainer) believes in dreams, too,” Christou said. “Before one of Phoenix Reach’s winning races in the Orient, Andrew had a dream that his bridle would break, so we put his blinkers on inside the bridle. His bridle did break in that race, but the blinkers stayed on, because we had put them on inside. If his blinkers had come off, we would have been disqualified. So we all believe in dreams.

“Also, I once had an Indian astrologer tell me that Phoenix Reach would become a great horse, as long as we never ran him at home,” Christou said. “Well, he was bred in Ireland, so that’s why we never have run him in Ireland.”

SHOWING UP’S OWNERS (ALSO BARBARO’S) ARRIVE AT ARLINGTON FRIDAY
Lael Stables’ Showing Up, 7-5 morning line favorite for Saturday’s Grade I Secretariat Stakes following his impressive three and a quarter-length tally the $1,000,000 Colonial Cup in Virginia June 24, will leave from the rail in the $400,000 leg of Arlington’s Mid-America Triple.

Lael Stables’ ownership duo of Roy and Gretchen Jackson, who also own this year’s injured Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro, will be making their first visit to Arlington Park to watch Showing Up run in the Secretariat, restricted to 3-year-olds of international grass caliber.

"We’ve never been to Arlington Park before,” said Gretchen Jackson, speaking over the phone from their West Grove, Pennsylvania, home early Wednesday afternoon, “but we’ve always heard how really great it is, and we’re really looking forward to seeing it for the first time. We just got back from Saratoga last night. I guess the rail will be all right in a field of six, but you never know in racing. Hopefully, Showing Up will run as well as he did in Virginia.

“Barbaro continues to be a good patient,” Mrs. Jackson said. “I feel so sorry for him. He wants to live and he’s really trying hard. He can do everything but talk. You can see when he gets tired he likes to lean on his sling a little bit, like he’s saying: ‘Ah, this feels a little better this way. I think I’ll try this for awhile.’ He is very special and we’re all hoping he can come through this. He wants to, and we love him, so knock on wood.”

EUROPEANS ON TRACK WEDNESDAY
Joining Winterbeck Manor Stud’s Phoenix Reach on the main track Wednesday morning during training hours – and also merely for light exercise – was Saturday’s Grade I Arlington Million XXIV candidate Touch of Land, owned by Gary Tanaka, with Bernard Mion up.

French-bred Touch of Land, trained by Henri-Alex Pantall, won France’s Group III Grand Prix de Vichy at the Vichy course in his last start, and is a veteran of last summer’s Arlington Million, where he finished fifth, beaten less than six lengths, despite being caught behind horses turning into the stretch. He also finished 11th in the 2003 Million as a sophomore.

Saturday’s European-based Grade I Beverly D. candidate Rising Cross, also owned by Tanaka but a British-bred who finished third in the Group I Irish Oaks at The Curragh in her last start July 16, stretched her legs under regular exercise rider Christie Skippen, who later expressed happiness with Rising Cross’s Beverly D. draw in post position four.

Irish-based Aidan O’Brien International Festival of Racing candidates Ace, an Arlington Million starter owned by Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor and Mrs. Harry McCalmont, galloped on the main track under John Frain, and Grade I Secretariat starter Ivan Denisovich, owned by Mrs. Magnier, Tabor, and Irving and Marjorie Cowan, had Antoine Bouts astride.

O’Brien head traveling lad Pat Keating said following the draw for International Festival of Racing post positions that he was very happy with both Ace’s Million draw at post position three and Ivan Denisovich’s Secretariat draw at post position five.
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Update 2,735, 972 from DRF.....


No European world-beaters in this Million
By ALAN SHUBACK

There will be some familiar European faces lining up for the Arlington Million on Saturday, but neither they nor any of the newcomers rate as highly as recent winners Sulamani or Powerscourt. The Beverly D., in direct competition with this past Saturday's Nassau Stakes, in which Ouija Board and Alexander Goldrun set Goodwood alight, has attracted only a single European-trained 3-year-old filly, one who will be making her first start against older females. In the Secretariat, we will see a Breeders' Cup Juvenile also-ran who has not won a race in 13 months and an intriguing Giant's Causeway colt who should make his presence felt.
Arlington Million

Touch of Land needs no introduction to Arlington regulars. Eleventh behind the victorious Sulamani in the Million three years ago as a 3-year-old, Touch of Land returned to Chicago last year to finish an improved fifth behind Powerscourt. Like last year, he is coming off a win in the Group 3 Grand Prix de Vichy. Perhaps more importantly from a form standpoint, he has won the last two runnings of the Prix Dollar, one of France's better Group 2 contests. Can Touch of Land be third-time lucky? A late-running third or fourth is more likely.

The Aidan O'Brien-trained Ace showed a liking for American racing when he was third in last fall's Turf Classic at Belmont and an even better second in the Breeders' Cup Turf. Disappointing in his first three starts this year, the 5-year-old Ace seemed to be coming around in his last try, when he was second over an inadequate mile in a Group 3 at the Curragh. A horse who likes a fast pace on firm ground, he is likely to enjoy the conditions of the Million. But players must choose between the Ace who has been off form all year and the Ace who may remember that he is back in America where, like ex-stablemate Powerscourt, he runs his best.

At 124, Phoenix Reach has a higher Timeform rating than any of Arlington's other European invaders. Trouble is, he hasn't run since finishing up the track in the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Diamond Stakes in July 2005. Trainer Andrew Balding has been pointing the 6-year-old Phoenix Reach to the Million since he got him back in training late this spring after a long spell on the sidelines because of a leg injury that nearly forced his retirement. At his best, he would be competitive, but it is doubtful Phoenix Reach will be at his best on Saturday. Moreover, his big international victories in the Canadian International, the Hong Kong Vase, and the Dubai Sheema Classic all came at 1 1/2 miles.

Soldier Hollow appears to be the best 10-furlong horse among the visitors. From the barn of Germany's leading trainer, Peter Schiergen, the 6-year-old Soldier Hollow hasn't been facing the quality of competition some of his Million rivals have this year, but he appears to be sitting on a big race. Twice the winner of Italy's best late-season event for older horses, the 1 1/4-mile Premio Roma, he has been first or second in 10 of his 12 tries at the Million distance and may be the value play.

Beverly D.

After chasing home the redoubtable Alexandrova in the English Oaks despite having taken a frightening stumble at the eighth pole, Rising Cross ran eighth in the Italian Oaks before bouncing back to form and finishing third behind Alexandrova in the Irish Oaks. Now, however, she is cutting back to 1 3/16 miles and facing older fillies and mares for the first time. She is likely to find the pace at Arlington too quick, the distance too short, and the competition too tough.

Secretariat


By the great Danehill, the O'Brien-trained Ivan Denisovich has seemed disinclined to make a peak effort this year and appears to be a classic case of a fine 2-year-old who simply didn't improve at 3. Anyone who thinks he will better himself in his first try beyond 1 1/16 miles may want to try him, but it would probably be money spent unwisely.

Primary, on the other hand, is a horse to whom attention should be paid. Lightly raced and improving, this son of Giant's Causeway is 2 for 2 at the Secretariat distance. The winner of the Group 3 Sandown Classic Trial in his seasonal debut off a 6 1/2-month absence, he was fifth in the Chester Vase next time out, but that can be discounted because it came at 1 1/2 miles, a distance that is just too long for him.

Primary was sent to Milan last time to prepare for the Secretariat and ran to expectations, loving the firm ground to rally off a fast pace in winning a competitive listed race. Expect him to be tracking the early pace in midpack and to close with a rush.

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Posted: 8/9/2006 6:12:55 PM

Fallon banned from riding in Arlington Million

A Wednesday ruling by Arlington Park stewards denied the license application of English champion rider Kieren Fallon in Saturday's Arlington Million Stakes (G1), because Fallon is facing criminal charges in England.
Fallon was listed as the rider of Ace (Ire) in the Arlington Million, and also was listed as the rider on Ivan Denisovich (Ire) in the Secretariat Stakes (G1) when entries were drawn on Wednesday.

Both horses are trained by Aidan O'Brien, the Irish trainer who had Fallon in the saddle when he won last year's Arlington Million with Powerscourt (GB).

Fallon and several others involved in racing in various capacities were charged with conspiring to defraud bettors and had their licenses revoked in England in July after a London police investigation of more than 80 races from December 1, 2002 through September 2, 2004.

Despite the revocation in England, Fallon has continued to ride in Ireland and France. The racing jurisdictions there are not honoring the suspension on the premise that an accused person is innocent until proven guilty.

However, Illinois Racing Board rules mandate that suspensions from other jurisdictions be honored at the state's tracks. According to the stewards' ruling: "Mr. Fallon's presence on the grounds of any facility under the jurisdiction of the Illinois Racing Board calls into question the honesty and integrity of horse racing due to his current indictment in England of conspiracy to defraud."—Neil Milbert

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Everyone is forgetting about Touch of Land.
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