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Old 01-19-2009, 04:24 PM
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Get rid of his Sec. of the Treasury.
Timothy Geithner did not know summer camp is not a tax deduction...
honest mistake... that is a crock.

Most of the other appointments have pgardn's approval.

I wish more people really understood the problems with
no child left behind and school vouchers (the vouchers presented
for the State of Texas are nothing short of pure stupidity, a clear
violation of the separation of church and state... and much more.)

Also some of the very worst students in Science that I have taught
come from private religion associated schools. If this is close to representative to the rest of the country we can forget about any advancement in Science. Oh yes. The home schooled kids are awful
also Science wise. Even if their parents are Doctors.

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Old 01-19-2009, 06:19 PM
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Get rid of his Sec. of the Treasury.
Timothy Geithner did not know summer camp is not a tax deduction...
honest mistake... that is a crock.

Most of the other appointments have pgardn's approval.

I wish more people really understood the problems with
no child left behind and school vouchers (the vouchers presented
for the State of Texas are nothing short of pure stupidity, a clear
violation of the separation of church and state... and much more.)

Also some of the very worst students in Science that I have taught
come from private religion associated schools. If this is close to representative to the rest of the country we can forget about any advancement in Science. Oh yes. The home schooled kids are awful
also Science wise. Even if their parents are Doctors.
you're a teacher
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:33 PM
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Also some of the very worst students in Science that I have taught
come from private religion associated schools. If this is close to representative to the rest of the country we can forget about any advancement in Science. Oh yes. The home schooled kids are awful
also Science wise. Even if their parents are Doctors.
That reminds me, you have to come here to the Creation Museum. Dinosaurs and humans (neanderthals, all hominids, etc) and all extinct species walking the earth together.

Gotta love the way it screws with the minds of the little fourth graders, when the person giving the tour to the school group asks questions, students eagerly answer, then the tour guide tells the students they are WRONG about what they've learned about when dinosaurs lived, how they died, etc.
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:27 PM
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* Stem Cell research at further levels[/B
- Private sector doesn't believe in it DISAGREE
The "private sector" not only wants better cures for cancer, ruptured ACL's, etc., the private sector is the primary scientific researcher here.
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The "private sector" not only wants better cures for cancer, ruptured ACL's, etc., the private sector is the primary scientific researcher here.

not the same
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:57 PM
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not the same
The private sector I associate with wants it.
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The private sector I associate with wants it.
the government has not banned embryonic stem cell research they just haven't paid for it.

I thought hte private sector didn't belive in that particular kind of stem cell research.

either way I don't think the government should pay for it
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I have a question for the ignorant bigot. What exactly have gays done to deserve to be killed? I mean there's hate and then there's thinking people should be dead for their sexual preference. Kind of sad that someone thinks like that in 2009.
It would be nice to one day live in a world (or at least a country) where everyone could get along, and people could look past differences and love each other for who you are!
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:08 AM
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Excellent piece by, yes, Cal Thomas

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2489
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:39 AM
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Excellent piece by, yes, Cal Thomas

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2489
It was good, especially this part;

"Here’s another suggestion: focus less on ideology and more on how people can become independent of government. For too long, your party has emphasized misery, failure and government dependency instead of success, fulfillment and self-sufficiency. By spotlighting people who move from dependence to independence, you model and encourage achievement".
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Excellent piece by, yes, Cal Thomas

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2489
I totally agree. very well written, especially the last paragraph.

"Good luck, God bless and I hope you succeed in the things with which conservatives can agree. And on those things we cannot agree, I at least promise to be more than a naysayer and suggest how they might be done better."
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:20 AM
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* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry.
Hitler would agree. I strongly DISAGREE

* Ban the Death Penalty
What crime could a child commit to earn the death penalty? BAN ABORTION first

* Full rights for Gays to marry
Full rights for Gays to Marry what?

* Simplify the tax code*
Bad for horse racing The Breck Girl already got it in a tax shelter anyway. How about cut spending?

* No offshore drilling - When congress quits flying around in jets DISAGREE

* Stem Cell research at further levels - Private sector doesn't believe in it DISAGREE

* Less farm subsidies unless warrented - What? Then how can the world bank give them loans guaranteed with my money to crappy ass 3rd world countries that buy US grain? ok, no Wind Farm Subsidies

* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards - Privatize the school system let parents pay

* Revisit NAFTA - NAFTA that was passed by a demChiComCrimocRat congress and sign by x-42

* NASA...what does it mean? National Aeronautics and Space Administration

* Environment, Environment, Environment - do you mean Gerbil Worming? It's cyclical and an excuse to use what is known as Green Communism US is #1 on the enviroment - try going after China , mexico and India or some other crap country
Dude when are you running? I'd vote for you in a heartbeat.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:38 PM
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Dude when are you running? I'd vote for you in a heartbeat.
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it is that all you have to do to be present-ident is
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Old 01-20-2009, 05:12 PM
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Dude when are you running? I'd vote for you in a heartbeat.
.... no doubt
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Old 01-20-2009, 05:16 PM
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.... no doubt
And he'll be head and head with Cynthia Mckinney in the polling, undoubtedly
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:38 PM
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And he'll be head and head with Cynthia Mckinney in the polling, undoubtedly
"what sin could a man commit in a single life time to bring this upon himself"


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Old 01-21-2009, 11:18 AM
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* Full rights for Gays to marry
Full rights for Gays to Marry what?
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Whatever person they want to marry. Why shouldn't they have that right? Because you don't like it? Because your religion doesn't like it? Because of your bigotry? For way too long we've let the religion of some dictate the rights of others. We've allowed rights to be taken away because of one's sex, race, and sexual orientation. Why are we getting rid of just some of that? This guy comes in talking about equality this n' that, and yet he is against a member of society being able to have the right to do something others get the right to do(marry another person.) I think it's absolutely hypocritical, and I would tell it right to his understanding face. Many of us may not like the visual created when two members of the same sex marry. That's a really piss poor reason to deny them the right to do it. If you look at the reasons given to justify denying them the right to marry, they are all really awful. They are all based on sexual discrimination of one kind or another. You can't marry this particular person because they are this sex, and you are that sex. You can't have the society this guy was talking about yesterday(free and equal etc.,) and continue to discriminate based on one's sex. I really think the argument against gay marriage requires the use of discrimination based on one's sex, or the acceptance of another person's religious views. I don't think either should be condoned any longer. I think the arguments against gay marriage are based on crap. It amazes me that he is gunna possibly work on the gays in the military issue instead of the gay marriage issue. The gay marriage issue really has no impact on people who aren't gay(other than they often don't like 2 gays marrying.) Straight people don't like the visual. So what? When it comes to gays in the military, I think straight people have a real argument to make. Not whether gays should be able to join the military. They certainly should not be kept from being able to help protect their country. How are they going to do that? With who? Under what living conditions? I don't find it unreasonable that straight people don't want to shower in the same area(at the same time) as gay people. That's a lot more reasonable objection than wanting to keep two gay people from marrying each other.

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Whatever person they want to marry. Why shouldn't they have that right? Because you don't like it? Because your religion doesn't like it? Because of your bigotry? For way too long we've let the religion of some dictate the rights of others. We've allowed rights to be taken away because of one's sex, race, and sexual orientation. Why are we getting rid of just some of that? This guy comes in talking about equality this n' that, and yet he is against a member of society being able to have the right to do something others get the right to do(marry another person.) I think it's absolutely hypocritical, and I would tell it right to his understanding face. Many of us may not like the visual created when two members of the same sex marry. That's a really piss poor reason to deny them the right to do it. If you look at the reasons given to justify denying them the right to marry, they are all really awful. They are all based on sexual discrimination of one kind or another. You can't marry this particular person because they are this sex, and you are that sex. You can't have the society this guy was talking about yesterday(free and equal etc.,) and continue to discriminate based one's sex. I really think the argument against gay marriage requires the use of discrimination based on one's sex, or the acceptance of another person's religious views. I don't think either should be condoned any longer. I think the arguments against gay marriage are based on crap. It amazes me that he is gunna possibly work on the gays in the military issue instead of the gay marriage issue. The gay marriage issue really has no impact on people who aren't gay(other than they often don't like 2 gays marrying.) Straight people don't like the visual. So what? When it comes to gays in the military, I think straight people have a real argument to make. Not whether gays should be able to join the military. They certainly should not be kept from being able to help protect their country. How are they going to do that? With who? Under what living conditions? I don't find it unreasonable that straight people don't want to shower in the same area(at the same time) as gay people. That's a lot more reasonable objection than wanting to keep two gay people from marrying each other.
I got lost about halfway through but this still deserves a
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I got lost about halfway through but this still deserves a
If somebody writes it more concisely, then I will substitute it in.
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Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..

* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry
* Ban the Death Penalty
* Full rights for Gays to marry
* Simplify the tax code
* No offshore drilling
* Stem Cell research at further levels
* Less farm subsidies unless warrented
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards
* Revisit NAFTA
* NASA...what does it mean?
* Environment, Environment, Environment

This should be fun..
Not surprisingly, I agree with every single thing on this list - particularly the first three - but we all know he isn't going to touch those.
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