Update on Calder spill Monday

[Fanofthejuiceguys]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Youre an idiot for bashing a bugs ride on chalk. You know what happens to that kid if he gate scratches that horse?

Youre on a kid who is lucky to have survived a spill because a horse broke down. I guess he should have taken pictures before the mount took the track. All you can ask of a jockey is they ride to their fullest, how can you even consider bashing a kid for a horse breaking down?

Who said anything about gate scratching, wake up and pay attention, oh , and learn to read. I'm on a kid who obviously doesn't have the horse sense to be out there, if one is going bad underneath him, it's his responsibility NOT to continually pummel the creature until he causes the very accident you speak of.

[Sightseek]

It's great to see the Holiday cheer is at an abundance on this board.

[The Bid]

The only responsibility a jockey has after those gates pop is to ride their mount to the fullest, thats all the poor kid did. What would you have done if you were on that filly, just ease her outside everything else? She broke off the pony and jogged a warm up prior to the running of the race. They probably knew she was a little sore but thought she would warm up out of it. If the connections felt she was sound enough to run, whos a bug to say any different. It isnt the jocks fault when a mount breaks down, he doesnt train the horse in the morning, nor does he shuffle the book to enter. All they do is ride for their life, and thats all he did. Its wrong to jump on him for riding his mount to the fullest.

Originally Posted by The Bid

The only responsibility a jockey has after those gates pop is to ride their mount to the fullest, thats all the poor kid did. What would you have done if you were on that filly, just ease her outside everything else? She broke off the pony and jogged a warm up prior to the running of the race. They probably knew she was a little sore but thought she would warm up out of it. If the connections felt she was sound enough to run, whos a bug to say any different. It isnt the jocks fault when a mount breaks down, he doesnt train the horse in the morning, nor does he shuffle the book to enter. All they do is ride for their life, and thats all he did. Its wrong to jump on him for riding his mount to the fullest.

Hes young and everyone has to learn and start someplace. Thats why they call them apprentices.
They all can't be as skilled and highly intellectual as part time exercise riders you know!!!!

[Fanofthejuiceguys]

Originally Posted by The Bid

The only responsibility a jockey has after those gates pop is to ride their mount to the fullest, thats all the poor kid did. What would you have done if you were on that filly, just ease her outside everything else? She broke off the pony and jogged a warm up prior to the running of the race. They probably knew she was a little sore but thought she would warm up out of it. If the connections felt she was sound enough to run, whos a bug to say any different. It isnt the jocks fault when a mount breaks down, he doesnt train the horse in the morning, nor does he shuffle the book to enter. All they do is ride for their life, and thats all he did. Its wrong to jump on him for riding his mount to the fullest.

It's his job to excercise good judgement which in this case he obviously did not.

[The Bid]

I didnt know Juiceguy was an gallopboy, maybe he has some valid points if he also rides. He may have been able to prevent that breakdown by taking ahold and easing that horse outside. Maybe someone with his experience would have been able to scratch at the gate without it costing him business. I wouldnt be in a hurry to gate scratch a Melnyk horse in Florida as a bug. Hes probably right, it was that pinheads fault, he shouldnt have ridden that mount to the fullest, and I am an idiot. I apologize for having an opinion different than his, I thought I could give my opinion in here without getting attacked.

[Fanofthejuiceguys]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I didnt know Juiceguy was an gallopboy, maybe he has some valid points if he also rides. He may have been able to prevent that breakdown by taking ahold and easing that horse outside. Maybe someone with his experience would have been able to scratch at the gate without it costing him business. I wouldnt be in a hurry to gate scratch a Melnyk horse in Florida as a bug. Hes probably right, it was that pinheads fault, he shouldnt have ridden that mount to the fullest, and I am an idiot. I apologize for having an opinion different than his, I thought I could give my opinion in here without getting attacked.

I gave my opinion, and I was attacked, you were the one that said the kid deserved to die, not I. By the way, I am not a gallop boy. You keep obsessing over "gate scratching" a horse, why can't you accept the idea that it's obvious something went wrong DURING the race, not necessarily BEFORE it. This is where horse sense and judgement apply. Do you really think the connections, or anyone else except dumb gamblers like oracle would penalize the kid for excercising proper judgement and pulling up an injured horse? If you do, then you have no horse sense either. I'm sure the owners were happy watching the kid beat a injured horse senseless until it finally went down and was irreperably injured.

[Fanofthejuiceguys]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Here's a thought, and I know that it is mighty hypocritical coming from me, but i'm in a good mood today. Neither side is going to convince the other that they are wrong, so why not just leave it at that. I see another 10 page thread about nothing coming up. The original point of the thread was an update on the jocks that went down, because I believe someone asked the other day.

Here's a thought: Go watch the replay.

[The Bid]

Juice, you know that filly showed some talent in her first start. She took all the money...they ran her back in the same spot next out, she finished up the track, took all the money at the 25 level. Then they chopped her in half, bottomed her out, and she broke down. To me I think they probably had an idea she had some issues. She showed enough talent in her first start to try her a few times before doing the chopsuey, unless she had some issues physically.

I never attacked you, I just think its pretty rotten to blame a bug for a chalk breaking down on the lead midstretch. He really doesnt have many options, riding for Mr Melynk in Florida. You ride the mount to the finish, period.

Im glad little bridge is alright

[uscrules]

have some respect for a kid who nearly lost his life the other day, now guys.and oracle work on some new lines, stop stealing from movies like rounders and goodfellas, getting old partner.
juiceguy, i believe i know who this is but mum is the word for now at least.

[Fanofthejuiceguys]

I'm just stating my opinion. I'm not offended by it being unpopular, but it is reality. Do you think Jerry Bailey would have beat a hurting horse senseless until it broke down? This kid learned a valuable lesson, and made a mistake I'm sure he won't ever make again. What's so great about riding for "Mr. Melnyk" ?

[Fanofthejuiceguys]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Why? So I can join in the fun?

So you can offer an informed opinion.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

i agree with the fan,,,the kid needs to have some judgment,,

[The Bid]

Whats great, he has a steady stream of horses

Bailey wouldnt have been on a 12,500 maiden claimer in the last race of the day. Bailey would have gate scratched, but Little Bridge is no Bailey, and little Bridge could lose a lot of business if he starts gate scratching mounts for major outfits. You dont agree?

Originally Posted by Fanofthejuiceguys

I'm just stating my opinion. I'm not offended by it being unpopular, but it is reality. Do you think Jerry Bailey would have beat a hurting horse senseless until it broke down? This kid learned a valuable lesson, and made a mistake I'm sure he won't ever make again. What's so great about riding for "Mr. Melnyk" ?

You know it all. You got the Powerball numbers for tonight?

[uscrules]

the kid cant afford to be on an internet message board for 14 hours every day so hes got that going for him. chloe knows his brother Shaun.

[Fanofthejuiceguys]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Okay, what race and day, I'm sure people are waiting at the edge of their seats for my opinion, but I'll oblige.

Last race this past Monday at Calder

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

When is this act going to stop

Probably never. This guy seems to have experience with trolling message boards and more than likely knows how to get around a ban.

[uscrules]

what is a troll? are only certain people on here eligible to tell fibs like unohoo. chloe likes hollywood but hates the new surface.
sing a christmas carol and lighten up tight as-s. punk.

Originally Posted by uscrules

what is a troll? are only certain people on here eligible to tell fibs like unohoo. chloe likes hollywood but hates the new surface.
sing a christmas carol and lighten up tight as-s. punk.

The only fibber we have here is you.