nyra

[blackthroatedwind]

People earn respect. The constant whining that some are treated differently than others is flat out tiresome....and really nothing more than infantile complaining. Rather than looking inside oneself, the blame is placed elsewhere.

The facts are that I extended you the courtesy of explaining something to you despite the way you behave towards me. The facts are that you never responded. Whatever. It happens. However, to now call me a liar, instead of handling it like a man, and perhaps sending me a PM saying something to the affect that you " meant to, but you know how it goes, if you don't respond to PMs or e-mails quickly you often forget " is unfortunate. But, I guess it's OK, because apparently I can do whatever I want, and you are treated....how exactly? You post here with impugnity. You make false claims with impugnity.

Amazing.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

i sent andy a pm the other day thanking him for his observations.he wrote me back .

and gales..the crews need a break also..after a huge day the temp vendors are clearing out the press espn ect..its no big deal
why the hatred for nyra?

matt - it's not hatred , it was a nice day , we could have had big turnout , there was a big c/o , i think it's a bad business decision that's all , nyra left a lot of money on the table by not running yesterday

the biggest disaster of the weekend was monmouth , and i even responed to randall about that , it's a personal opinion about NYRA and sunday , they could run sunday and not come back to thursday if they want to let everyone get an extra day off .

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

People earn respect. The constant whining that some are treated differently than others is flat out tiresome....and really nothing more than infantile complaining. Rather than looking inside oneself, the blame is placed elsewhere.

The facts are that I extended you the courtesy of explaining something to you despite the way you behave towards me. The facts are that you never responded. Whatever. It happens. However, to now call me a liar, instead of handling it like a man, and perhaps sending me a PM saying something to the affect that you " meant to, but you know how it goes, if you don't respond to PMs or e-mails quickly you often forget " is unfortunate. But, I guess it's OK, because apparently I can do whatever I want, and you are treated....how exactly? You post here with impugnity. You make false claims with impugnity.

Amazing.

do i have to actually tell Joey to go get the smoking gun?

[Danzig]

sorry, i agree with nyra not running on sunday. saturday was a huge day, no doubt everyone put in a lot of hours getting saturday taken care of without a hitch. for a fan who wanted to bet, sure it might be a pain to have one less track to put some money towards, but i can certainly understand why they didn't plan a card.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by gales0678

do i have to actually tell Joey to go get the smoking gun?

Contrary to the belief of your master, there is no access to PMs by moderators.

I am sure you meant to send one. I don't honestly think it was some intention of yours to be rude. That's why I always try to respond to PMs and e-mails immediately, as else it is easy to forget.

Then again, maybe my senility is setting in faster than I thought. Always a possibility.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by gales0678

matt - it's not hatred , it was a nice day , we could have had big turnout , there was a big c/o , i think it's a bad business decision that's all , nyra left a lot of money on the table by not running yesterday

the biggest disaster of the weekend was monmouth , and i even responed to randall about that , it's a personal opinion about NYRA and sunday , they could run sunday and not come back to thursday if they want to let everyone get an extra day off .

as far wagering on it weds gives people a bit of time to re group..also making it a big event mid week..many players who were on/off track were in mid travel or had to do something else. im pretty sure they have done this for sometime.off sunday after.

[Scav]

I love when there is no racing....

I'll second Bigs notion of not running, gives you time to handicap. I don't like NY wagering besides Saratoga but I'll probably give Wednesday a shot off the pure value.

[CSC]

I don't know who exactly was at fault here, NYRA or ABC or both, but it was absolutely disgraceful the Manhattan wasn't shown live for some internet wagering accounts or mine wasn't able to view it that I know. To make matters worst ABC seemed to think it was not worth showing either. This was the race I was most looking fwd to all day and to not be able to view as it was happening was just bullcrap.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't know who exactly was at fault here, NYRA or ABC or both, but it was absolutely disgraceful the Manhattan wasn't shown live for some internet wagering accounts or mine wasn't able to view it that I know. To make matters worst ABC didn't seem to think it was not worth showing either. This was the race I was most looking fwd to all day and to not view as it was happening was just bullcrap.

What could possibly make you think NYRA wouldn't want ABC to show the Manhattan?

What's next, that NYRA was in cahoots with BP? This stuff is endless.

NT

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What could possibly make you think NYRA wouldn't want ABC to show the Manhattan?

What's next, that NYRA was in cahoots with BP? This stuff is endless.

NT

That's already been bandied about. The jury is still out.

[blackthroatedwind]

Yet another funny sidebar is that we originally weren't racing on Wednesday of last week and added that day late ( take a look at the NYRA Calendar if you don't realize this ).

[CSC]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What could possibly make you think NYRA wouldn't want ABC to show the Manhattan?

What's next, that NYRA was in cahoots with BP? This stuff is endless.

NT

I have no idea what happened this day, previous years I do not recall this ever happening, I don't know who is at fault and I do not know from a logistics television point of view was it even possible. But to show Randy Moss going over the early oddsboard of the Belmont or Dale Romans and G Fox's relationship was a total waste IMO. Maybe NYRA could have strong armed them into showing the race for their fans from a PR point of view, I was not impressed having bet the race and having to wait 10 mins to see what happened.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by gales0678

I just don't think they guys running the ship get it.

There was no reason in the world not to run yesterday.

You had a 930k carryover for the pick 6 , could have been a big day on a Sunday in Elmont.

You are not going to get a Triple Crown possiblity every year. Mr Handel please put Sunday after Belmont back on the calendar

If there wasn't a carryover would you feel the same way?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by CSC

I have no idea what happened this day, previous years I do not recall this ever happening, I don't know who is at fault and I do not know from a logistics television point of view was it even possible. But to show Randy Moss going over the early oddsboard of the Belmont or Dale Romans and G Fox's relationship was a total waste IMO. Maybe NYRA could have strong armed them into showing the race for their fans from a PR point of view, I was not impressed having bet the race and having to wait 10 mins to see what happened.

I don't think NYRA has any leverage to strong arm ABC on anything. What are they going to say? Show the race or else? While I agree that it sucks not to see the race and if they arent going to show it they should allow TVG/HRTV to show it, it really isnt that big of a deal.

As for NYRA racing on Sunday, I have been to Belmont on the Sunday after the Belmont in previous years. There usually is noone there. The 4 day leadup to the Wed carryover will help NYRA handle far more money on the wager than if they had it on Sunday. Is this even debatable?

And I still can't believe that Romans and Greg Fox have a relationship. I didnt even know they were gay

[Heels1989]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I don't think NYRA has any leverage to strong arm ABC on anything. What are they going to say? Show the race or else? While I agree that it sucks not to see the race and if they arent going to show it they should allow TVG/HRTV to show it, it really isnt that big of a deal.

As for NYRA racing on Sunday, I have been to Belmont on the Sunday after the Belmont in previous years. There usually is noone there. The 4 day leadup to the Wed carryover will help NYRA handle far more money on the wager than if they had it on Sunday. Is this even debatable?

And I still can't believe that Romans and Greg Fox have a relationship. I didnt even know they were gay

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[pmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What could possibly make you think NYRA wouldn't want ABC to show the Manhattan?

What's next, that NYRA was in cahoots with BP? This stuff is endless.

NT

Close... http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/hayward-vs-hayward/

An apology was later issued by the author.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by jms62

If there wasn't a carryover would you feel the same way?

yes

nyra runs on sunday after the travers . it is a successful day , they have a grade 1 , there is no reason they can't run at belmont , or we supposed to believe that if they run on sunday they would lose money ??? i find that hard to believe

todd pletcher won 6 races in a row a few years ago on a sunday after the belmont , i think it was the year after smarty jones won , if i remember correct they had a pretty good size crowd there that day

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I don't think NYRA has any leverage to strong arm ABC on anything. What are they going to say? Show the race or else? While I agree that it sucks not to see the race and if they arent going to show it they should allow TVG/HRTV to show it, it really isnt that big of a deal.

As for NYRA racing on Sunday, I have been to Belmont on the Sunday after the Belmont in previous years. There usually is noone there. The 4 day leadup to the Wed carryover will help NYRA handle far more money on the wager than if they had it on Sunday. Is this even debatable?

And I still can't believe that Romans and Greg Fox have a relationship. I didnt even know they were gay

sure it is , you can't tell me that there won't be more people at belmont on a nice sunday afternoon than on a nice wednesday afternoon. i have been out there on wednesday afternoon and you can talk to the jockeys as no one is there

the syndicate $$$ , pros $$$ will be in sunday or wednesday , you would get more casual race fans $$$ into that pool if you were open for business on sunday chuck , the pros $$$ alwayss gets in , the guys that has to work during the week may be less inclined to play on a wednesday , but they would play on a sunday

chuck is travers day not as big a day for nyra as belmont day ??? they run up at the spa on sunday , they can run chuck down here too

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by gales0678

yes

nyra runs on sunday after the travers . it is a successful day , they have a grade 1 , there is no reason they can't run at belmont , or we supposed to believe that if they run on sunday they would lose money ??? i find that hard to believe

todd pletcher won 6 races in a row a few years ago on a sunday after the belmont , i think it was the year after smarty jones won , if i remember correct they had a pretty good size crowd there that day

Based on what measure? Saratoga is a freaking ghost town the day after Travers.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

yes

nyra runs on sunday after the travers . it is a successful day , they have a grade 1 , there is no reason they can't run at belmont , or we supposed to believe that if they run on sunday they would lose money ??? i find that hard to believe

todd pletcher won 6 races in a row a few years ago on a sunday after the belmont , i think it was the year after smarty jones won , if i remember correct they had a pretty good size crowd there that day

there is no way that travers day and it's undercard matches up to what belmont park just provided on saturday. and if nyra used to run the day after, and now they don't, one would have to think they had a very, very good reason to make the change.