I Had The Swine Flu

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by golfer

After watching the news Sunday morning on tv (big mistake), and seeing sheep...errr people lining up for HOURS to get themselves and their children vaccinated, I felt compelled to share this video. Needless to say, this side of the story was NOT in the news reports:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1K74Tnrrok

Sorry man...I feel for you if you don't get your kids vaccinated.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Sorry man...I feel for you if you don't get your kids vaccinated.

You feel for him if he doesn't get his kids poisoned?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

drink sam adams..it has all the things you need..

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You feel for him if he doesn't get his kids poisoned?

I'm sorry..I don't sign up for the Moon landing in Arizona, 9/11 conspiracy/Flu shot poisoning theories...There were 150 out of 900 kids sick in my daughter's school...She is getting a flu shot and if others want to chant and pray around their sick kids, then good luck to them. I respective your alternative med stuff, but a flu shot isn't "poison"

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm sorry..I don't sign up for the Moon landing in Arizona, 9/11 conspiracy/Flu shot poisoning theories...There were 150 out of 900 kids sick in my daughter's school...She is getting a flu shot and if others want to chant and pray around their sick kids, then good luck to them. I respective your alternative med stuff, but a flu shot isn't "poison"

You mean except for the known neurotoxins and carcinogenic chemicals they put in it?

Cause yeah, otherwise, you are right.

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm sorry..I don't sign up for the Moon landing in Arizona, 9/11 conspiracy/Flu shot poisoning theories...There were 150 out of 900 kids sick in my daughter's school...She is getting a flu shot and if others want to chant and pray around their sick kids, then good luck to them. I respective your alternative med stuff, but a flu shot isn't "poison"

Wrong.

http://www.icpa4kids.org/research/children/vac_info.htm

Quotes From Medical Doctors On Vaccines

"Our children face the possibility of death or serious long-term adverse effects from mandated vaccines that aren't necessary or that have very limited benefits." -- Jane M. Orient, M.D., Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) executive director.

"My suspicion, which is shared by others in my profession, is that the nearly 10,000 SIDS deaths that occur in the United States each year are related to one or more of the vaccines that are routinely given children. The pertussis vaccine is the most likely villain, but it could also be one or more of the others." --Dr. Mendelsohn, M.D.

"When I was training, one in 2,500 [children were autistic]. Now it is one in 250. At the moment, the only logical explanation for this is MMR." -- Dr Kenneth Aitken, British specialist in the treatment of autism. (The Telegraph, United Kingdom, April 2, 2002)

"By the (U.S.) government's own admission, there has been a 41% failure rate in persons who were previously vaccinated against the (measles) virus." -- Dr. Anthony Morris, John Chriss, BG Young, "Occurrence of Measles in Previously Vaccinated Individuals," 1979; presented at a meeting of the American Society for Microbiology at Fort Detrick, Maryland, April 27, 1979.

"In 1993 a high court judge in the UK decided that it was impossible to know the exact contents of vaccines and that science had no idea what the cocktail of chemicals, contaminants and heavy metals contained in vaccines could do to the human body, or why they would work to prevent disease." -- British Medical Journal, 1993.

"There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza. The producers of these vaccines know that they are worthless, but they go on selling them, anyway." -- Dr. J. Anthony Morris (formerly Chief Vaccine Control Officer at the US Federal Drug Admin.)

"There is insufficient evidence to support routine vaccination of healthy persons of any age." --Paul Frame, M.D., Journal of Family Practice

"Our results suggest that infants whose mothers are born since measles vaccine licensure in 1963 are significantly more susceptible to measles than are infants of older mothers and that the risk of measles increases incrementally with each year increase in the maternal year of birth." -- "Increased susceptibility to measles in infants in the United States ", Pediatrics 1999 (Nov); 104 (5): e59

The strong association between vaccination with RRV-TV and intussusception among otherwise healthy infants supports the existence of a causal relation. -- Intussusception among infants given an oral rotavirus vaccine, Murphy TV, et al. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, N Engl J Med. 2001 Feb 22;344(8):564-72

"Delay of DPT immunization until 2 years of age in Japan has resulted in a dramatic decline in adverse side effects. In the period of 1970-1974, when DPT vaccination was begun at 3 to 5 months of age, the Japanese national compensation system paid out claims for 57 permanent severe damage vaccine cases, and 37 deaths. During the ensuing six year period 1975-1980, when DPT injections were delayed to 24 months of age, severe reactions from the vaccine were reduced to a total of eight with three deaths. This represents an 85 to 90 percent reduction in severe cases of damage and death." --Raymond Obomsawin, Ph.D.

"Autism may be a disorder linked to the disruption of the G-alpha protein, affecting retinoid receptors in the brain. A study of sixty autistic children suggests that autism may be caused by inserting a G-alpha protein defect, the pertussis toxin found in the D.P.T. vaccine, into genetically at-risk children." --Mary N. Megson, M.D.

"My data proves that the studies used to support immunization are so flawed that it is impossible to say if immunization provides a net benefit to anyone or to society in general. This question can only be determined by proper studies which have never been performed. The flaw of previous studies is that there was no long term follow up and chronic toxicity was not looked at. The American Society of Microbiology has promoted my research...and thus acknowledges the need for proper studies." --John B.Classen, M.D., M.B.A

"These data show that DPT vaccination may be a generally unrecognized major cause of sudden infant and early childhood death, and that the risks of immunization may outweigh its potential benefits. A need for re-evaluation and possible modification of current vaccination procedures is indicated by this study." --William C. Torch, M.D., Director of Child Neurology, Department of Pediatrics, University of Nevada School of Medicine

"The (Illinois) department followed the recommendation of a panel of experts, its Immunization Advisory Committee, while rejecting the advice of others who thought the decision should be left to parents and pediatricians. But in what critics consider a conflict of interest, 5 of the committee's 18 members have financial ties to Merck, which makes the chickenpox vaccine. Two members of the committee have given talks for Merck, receiving up to $750 per speech. A third member directs a nonprofit group that has received $20,000 in grant money from the company. And two other members own stock in Merck, including one who has owned as much as $16,000 worth." - (Sun Times, January 27, 2002)

"Vaccination is not necessary, not useful, does not protect. There are twice as many casualties from vaccination as from AIDS." --Dr. Gerhard Buchwald, West Germany, specialist of internal diseases and participant in about 150 trials of vaccination victims.

"The public is surely entitled to convincing proof, beyond all reasonable doubt, that artificial immunization is in fact a safe and effective procedure, in no way injurious to health, and that the threat of the corresponding natural diseases remain sufficiently clear and urgent to warrant mass inoculation of everyone, even against their will if necessary. Unfortunately, such proof has never been given." --Richard Moskowitz, M.D., Journal of the American Institute of Homeopathy, March 1983 (76:7)

"Sudden Infant Death Syndrome has been reported following administration of DPT. The significance is unclear. 85% of SIDS cases occur in the period 1 through 6 months of age, with the peak incidence at age 2 to 4 months." --From the accompanying insert to Connaught Labs DPT shot.

"Measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis B, and the whole panoply of childhood diseases are a far less serious threat than having a large fraction (say 10%) of a generation afflicted with learning disability and/or uncontrollable aggressive behavior because of an impassioned crusade for universal vaccination ... Public policy regarding vaccines is fundamentally flawed. It is permeated by conflicts of interest. It is based on poor scientific methodology (including studies that are too small, too short, and too limited in populations represented), which is, moreover, insulated from independent criticism. The evidence is far too poor to warrant overriding the independent judgments of patients, parents, and attending physicians, even if this were ethically or legally acceptable." --Association of American Physicians & Surgeons

[Indian Charlie]

But, the priests in white robes tell us it's good for us!

[Antitrust32]

dont know if this is true but it cant hurt and you dont have to poison yourself.



The
following advice, given by Dr. Oz, makes a lot of sense and is important
for all to know:


The only portals of
entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this
nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in
spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem
as proliferation is.


While
you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in
order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development
of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted
in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing
on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):


1.
Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).


2.
"Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part
of face (unless you want to eat or bathe.)


3. *Gargle twice
a day with warm salt water (use Listerine or Hydrogen Peroxide if you
don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in
the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic
symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling
with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu
has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and
powerful preventative method.


4.
Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with
warm salt water, or hydrogen peroxide. *Not everybody may be good at
Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities),
but *blowing the nose softly once a day and swabbing both nostrils with
cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down
viral population.*



5.
*Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla
and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C
tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.


6.
*Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. *Drinking
warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse
direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the
stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any
harm.

[letswastemoney]

I've gotten the regular flu a couple of times in the past and recovered in a few days each time.

It's never occurred to me to get a vaccination for this, as I know even if I get the flu I'll recover. Only through reading different forums and reading about people panicking and getting the vaccination has the idea even crossed my mind that there is even a vaccination. But still, I don't believe I'll ever get the vaccination.

I don't know what "swine" flu is like though, so maybe the circumstances are different, but I feel fairly safe not taking any type of flu vaccination.

[chucklestheclown]

There are more doctors here than trainers. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Anybody watch V last night? Or remember the earlier version that they said was from the 80s but I could swear was from the 90s? Or know who Thomas Pynchon is?

[herkhorse]

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BL2ZT20100112

Drugs Drugs Drugs, enough already

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Nasal is made in good old U.S.A. If you must.

this is really the only alternative.