No Inquiry for second??

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Anyone suprise that there was no jockeys objection?

not really. some races don't seem to ever have a change in finish. gogo would have had to knock someone into the crowd to get taken down.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by sumitas

They should care . I'm just saying they don't because of the upset .

I'm thinking its more because its the derby. Pretty much anything goes.

[kgar311]

im a little bit sick to my stomach also seeing how I wheeled MM back and forth, to make me even more sick does anyone know what the 8-2 ex was coming back?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by kgar311

im a little bit sick to my stomach also seeing how I wheeled MM back and forth, to make me even more sick does anyone know what the 8-2 ex was coming back?

telephone numbers

wait till monmouth bud , derek will have some good ones

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by gales0678

telephone numbers

wait till monmouth bud , derek will have some good ones

Musket Man is a ****ing stud, not one time did they mention this horse in the preshows, hes only won at Belmont,Tampa,Hawthorn and dusted all the dirt horses today on a souped up track made for polyhorses

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Musket Man is a ****ing stud, not one time did they mention this horse in the preshows, hes only won at Belmont,Tampa,Hawthorn and dusted all the dirt horses today on a souped up track made for polyhorses

should have been 2nd , the stewards gotta explain this one

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by gales0678

should have been 2nd , the stewards gotta explain this one

Took them long enough to put the offical sign up. P*ssy *ss stewards didnt have the guts to blink POTN. Travesty

[Indian Charlie]

Papa Clem not running second cost me 6k.

I hate jockeys.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Papa Clem not running second cost me 6k.

I hate jockeys.

If clem or mm got second I would of had the ex

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Papa Clem not running second cost me 6k.

I hate jockeys.

damn, sorry.

1000% should have been an inquiry. Both jocks should have claimed foul.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

1000% should have been an inquiry. Both jocks should have claimed foul.

Jocks are frickin retards.

Except for Borel. He just sounds like one, but he clearly has much more grey matter than any other jockey in history.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by sumitas

i doubt anyone there really cares about who finished 2nd .

Probably the dumbest thing I've read on this board. At least racing-related. There absolutely should've at least been an inquiry. CD is a joke.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by philcski

how about the approximately $1 million that was bet on Musket Man for 2nd (not me for the most part)?

I wonder how much an 8/2 exacta would have paid.......

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I saw the blimp shot. That's Garret going all in with his sideways move. He threatens to come all the way over, but doesn't. The other guy always buys that move (like this guy did.) Give him credit. Guy has wicked intimidation stuff. Who got suckered? Bejarano? LOL..Like Bejarano hasn't seen that move from GOGO once a week? Kind of like some pitchers curveball. Know it's coming, but it's just too good.

I loved Papa Clem in this race, and my love lost luster with Bejarano up. He sees the move at SA and HOL ALL THE TIME, and he still goes for it.

[eajinabi]

Stewards had thier binoculars pointed at some of the TaTas in the infield.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

1000% should have been an inquiry. Both jocks should have claimed foul.

Now...Wait, Wait, Wait! Vic we have had this discussion before. This is not a new thing he does. I brought this up with you in here on July 11th, 2008 race 4. This is no worse than that, and you were perfectly fine with leaving that up. This is no worse than what he did on that night. I think what he did that night was more deserving than this. It's the same method though. He sees someone has more horse. He taps lefthanded. The horse shoots sideways, and he keeps it from going as far over as the other guy(and horse) thinks he's going to go. The other horse moves out, and loses a lil momentum, and that allows GOGO to hang on. It's the same deal. This is not something new. This is what he does. I haven't been able to find the head-on of the Derby, but I bet it isn't worse than that night(probably a little less.) This is no dummy. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's like a surgeon with this move. I doubt you're going to see massive contact. It's gunna be more a threatening thing he does(to force lateral movement by the enemy, and a slight momentum loss....it allows him to hold on.)

7/11/08 HWD RACE 4...Successful(NO INQUIRY)
8-13-08 DMR RACE 8...Successful (Jockey claim of foul not allowed)-even if you only have Calracing.com you can see head-on inquiry starting at 5:50...I don't know why they don't think that's enough )
1-10-09 SA RACE 3...(didn't work...horse got up despite his antics)
K DERBY-09......Successful(NO INQUIRY)

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Now...Wait, Wait, Wait! Vic we have had this discussion before. This is not a new thing he does. I brought this up with you in here on July 11th, 2008 race 4. This is no worse than that, and you were perfectly fine with leaving that up. This is no worse than what he did on that night. I think what he did that night was more deserving than this. It's the same method though. He sees someone has more horse. He taps lefthanded. The horse shoots sideways, and he keeps it from going as far over as the other guy(and horse) thinks he's going to go. The other horse moves out, and loses a lil momentum, and that allows GOGO to hang on. It's the same deal. This is not something new. This is what he does. I haven't been able to find the head-on of the Derby, but I bet it isn't worse than that night(probably a little less.) This is no dummy. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's like a surgeon with this move. I doubt you're going to see massive contact. It's gunna be more a threatening thing he does(to force lateral movement, and a slight momentum loss.) That night he had quite a bit of contact. Should of come down.

7/11/08 HWD RACE 4...Successful(NO INQUIRY)
8-13-08 DMR RACE 8...Successful (Jockey claim of foul not allowed))
1-10-09 SA RACE 3...(didn't work...horse got up despite his antics)
K DERBY-09......Successful(NO INQUIRY)

All I said was I felt there should have been an inquiry.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

All I said was I felt there should have been an inquiry.

Well? No inquiry that night.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers

I loved Papa Clem in this race, and my love lost luster with Bejarano up. He sees the move at SA and HOL ALL THE TIME, and he still goes for it.

Bejarano does it too, but it's not as good. They still let him do it though. From what I remember, he does more of a herding or gradual thing. Gomez has by far the best intimidation move. Works almost each time he does it. They move over, there's usually not that much actual contact (cuz they move over.) He quickly gets his horse moving forward again, and the enemy(who wasn't expecting to have to move laterally) loses that slight momentum advantage they had. I would guess the jocks didn't call it, because they didn't think they would get it changed(and both Bejarano n' Coa like to do it too.) Heard Bejarano after, and he didn't even mention it.