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[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I guess he will only have 500 more AB's to make up for that tragic AB. What exactly is a difference maker? The guy is the 2nd best 1st baseman in baseball, what more do you want?

Over enough time he'll produce. NY gets in the heads of some players who aren't used to it but he is too good to stay cold for much longer

[Cannon Shell]

He didnt exactly light the world on fire in April in Atlanta last year either.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Velez is no difference maker

and you are right he should play every day...in Fresno.

Where were you two when he was hitting .350(playing every game) during September? Was enough for you to avoid betting me about it. Go back. You'll see. I asked you guys many times, but you got scared off.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Over enough time he'll produce. NY gets in the heads of some players who aren't used to it but he is too good to stay cold for much longer

Too good? How many career POST SEASON RBI's does this star Tex have? All I remember is the sac fly for 1 RBI. He's hitting about .200 with 10 RBI this season. He's getting paid twice what he should(cuz he's seen as good citizen-clean-cut tame.)

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Where were you two when he was hitting .350(playing every game) during September? Was enough for you to avoid betting me about it. Go back. You'll see. I asked you guys many times, but you got scared off.

Grow Up with this you want to bet crap!

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Velez is money when the game is up for grabs. Who doesn't need somebody who thrives in that situation? If I put together a team, this guy is on that club somewhere. If he was on a good team, they would win how many more close games ?

This is what you said before. He had a shot Tuesday Night when Broxton couldn't find the K zone. Yes. Broxton threw a straight strike, and then threw 2 pitcher pitches. Zambrano and Gallardo are outhitting this guy.

I guess Bochy is a terrible manager.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Over enough time he'll produce. NY gets in the heads of some players who aren't used to it but he is too good to stay cold for much longer

It seems that NY (with the exception of Gales ) has been pretty leanient on Tex so far. I guess between the pitching/bullpen being at times just awful this season. The whole A-Rod season/injury saga. Then throw into the mix that David Wright and the team across town has been putrid at times too, equates to Tex flying under the radar with his slow start so far.
I like the guy and think he will be just fine. Especially after A-Rod gets back into the lineup and gives him a bit more protection. Just need more starts like they have gotten the last 2 nights and avoid meltdowns like they almost had last night.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

It seems that NY (with the exception of Gales ) has been pretty leanient on Tex so far. I guess between the pitching/bullpen being at times just awful this season. The whole A-Rod season/injury saga. Then throw into the mix that David Wright and the team across town has been putrid at times too, equates to Tex flying under the radar with his slow start so far.
I like the guy and think he will be just fine. Especially after A-Rod gets back into the lineup and gives him a bit more protection. Just need more starts like they have gotten the last 2 nights and avoid meltdowns like they almost had last night.

make fun of me you want with all the dizzy stickers , if old man steinbrenner was functional this guy would be getting more heat than he is --that is a fact

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

make fun of me you want with all the dizzy stickers , if old man steinbrenner was functional this guy would be getting more heat than he is --that is a fact

Incorrect. If he was functional they would have fired the pitching coach by now.

[MaTH716]

As far as the goes, you brought them on yourself with the Chicken Little act after one game in to the season.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

As far as the goes, you brought them on yourself with the Chicken Little act after one game in to the season.

maybe so after that , but , your attempt at humor was based on what i said about friday night

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Incorrect. If he was functional they would have fired the pitching coach by now.

i don't disagree with that , but no $20mm bust would have gotten a pass this long , the boys sure ain't like the old man , maddon or someone else would have buried him for a day in the papers already

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

maybe so after that , but , your attempt at humor was based on what i said about friday night

I know this is a big mistake, but could you please refresh my memory? You had a few gems last week and I forgot which one you are talking about.

Originally Posted by gales0678

i don't disagree with that , but no $20mm bust would have gotten a pass this long , the boys sure ain't like the old man , maddon or someone else would have buried him for a day in the papers already

Isn't it a bit premature calling a guy a bust 11 games into a 8 year contract? Or did Scuds tell you to say that?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I know this is a big mistake, but could you please refresh my memory? You had a few gems last week and I forgot which one you are talking about.



Isn't it a bit premature calling a guy a bust 11 games into a 8 year contract? Or did Scuds tell you to say that?

maybe bust is a strong word , but, how is a disappointment , is that a better word for you ?- do you not think that the steinbrenners are not diappointed that he is hitting under .200 a month into the season , do you not think that not seeing him come thourgh in the clutch against the red sox in the 10 th inning wasn't a disappointment -

[gales0678]

[quote=MaTH716]I know this is a big mistake, but could you please refresh my memory? You had a few gems last week and I forgot which one you are talking about.


nope - i only commented about the boston game strike out

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think Tex is pretty far down on the Steinbrenner's frustration's. Tex wasn't brought in to change anything. He was just another high priced bat brought in for more firepower. They have never had problems scoring. Their achilles heel the past few years has been pitching. They spent a lot more money on pitching than they did Tex in the off season and what do they have to show for it? Their pitchers can't get through the 5th and their bullpen, minus an old Mariano is flat out bad.

The Steinbrenner's are STILL trying to fill their brand new stadium. Have you seen the amount of empty seats at these games? They had to cut the most expensive seats in HALF. As a betting man, I'd say that's what the Steinbrenner's are focused on and figuring out what to do with the pitching. Not Tex striking out in a series they were swept. That's not a problem, the pitching is.

the point of the whole thing is the pitching is bad i ain't saying there isn't problems there, but , go ahead and ask any of the steinbreners about tex so far and ask them how they felt about the strikeout in that spot - i'm sure a guy hiitng .195 and collecting $22.5 million is a major disappointment to them at this point -

scuds made a point about the guy being a differnce makers , and that is what he was brought in here to be - so far through 1 month of the season he has been a major disappointment

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

maybe bust is a strong word , but, how is a disappointment , is that a better word for you ?- do you not think that the steinbrenners are not diappointed that he is hitting under .200 a month into the season , do you not think that not seeing him come thourgh in the clutch against the red sox in the 10 th inning wasn't a disappointment -

Sure he has underachevied so far. But do you actually believe that he's going to hit .200 all season? He is a notorious for getting hot after the all star break. Obviously that doesn't give him a pass for the 1st half. Does it worry you that the pitching staff is 12th in the AL in ERA? They are 4th & 5th in the AL in AVG. and runs scored. So like I said, I'm more concerened about the pitching then the hitting. They are averaging over 5 runs a game and that's with Tex around .200 and A-Rod out of the lineup. The offense will be fine.
To answer your question about the game in Boston. Sure I would have seen him like to get a big hit off one of the top closers in the leauge. But he didn't and them losing that game goes squarely on Mariano's shoulders PERIOD! But I'll bet you Tex does collect a few big hits in the 141 games that's still left in the season.

[gales0678]

see below

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Sure he has underachevied so far. But do you actually believe that he's going to hit .200 all season

Originally Posted by MaTH716

? He is a notorious for getting hot after the all star break. Obviously that doesn't give him a pass for the 1st half. Does it worry you that the pitching staff is 12th in the AL in ERA? They are 4th & 5th in the AL in AVG. and runs scored. So like I said, I'm more concerened about the pitching then the hitting. They are averaging over 5 runs a game and that's with Tex around .200 and A-Rod out of the lineup. The offense will be fine.
To answer your question about the game in Boston. Sure I would have seen him like to get a big hit off one of the top closers in the leauge. But he didn't and them losing that game goes squarely on Mariano's shoulders PERIOD! But I'll bet you Tex does collect a few big hits in the 141 games that's still left in the season.

1)no
2)yes
3)agree
4)i would hope so

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think most people know what the point of this was and it certainly wasn't a reasonable discussion. Tex was not brought in to be a difference maker, that is why Sabathia and Burnett were brought in. They needed pitching and still do. That's what will make a difference with this team. Tex was another big bat, who coincidentally got off to a slow start last year also.

But, since you are so connected, or at least play that role on the internet, why don't you ask the Steinbrenner's and come on back and tell us. I for one can't wait for more insider knowledge.

i never said i knew any of the stienbrenners personally , my comments were based on how geroge reacted in the past on certain high priced free agents - there would have been a story / a challenge to TEX already in the daily news by now , any yankee fan knows that and knows the reason why there hasn't been

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You're clueless.

and you're a kool aid drinker so we both have are faults big deal