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Old 01-19-2009, 10:32 AM
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I have 4 attack dogs that take care of intruders
Cheaper to have a gun than feed those 4 dogs!.....just saying
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:54 AM
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I have 4 attack dogs that take care of intruders
Your 4 attack dogs stacked on top of one another dont come up to my knees
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:33 PM
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I have 4 attack dogs that take care of intruders
now that's funny!
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:33 PM
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When someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, armed, just beg for your life in a very soft and tearful voice.

Yeah that gun control is a real a great idea...
if someone strafes my house in the middle of the night and i don't have an anti-aircraft emplacement, should i do the same?

i'm not really sure how i feel about gun control but i love the paranoid fantasy as justification for your opinion. armed gangs roaming your neighborhood?
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:48 PM
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Actually, I have pressure on me to get a gun. The dogs chased a guy out of the backyard 3 weeks ago. Have they done studies on how many people have killed a family member versus killed an actual intruder? Guns are pretty unforgiving.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:27 AM
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[quote=GBBob]Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..

* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry (AGREE ON SEMI, DISAGREE ON CONCEALED)
* Ban the Death Penalty(STRONGLY DISAGREE)
* Full rights for Gays to marry(AGREE)
* Simplify the tax code(AGREE)
* No offshore drilling(STRONGLY DISAGREE)
* Pro Choice in first and second Trimesters(FIRST-YES, SECOND-NO)
* Stem Cell research at further levels(AGREE)
* Less farm subsidies unless warrented(AGREE)
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards(AGREE)
* Revisit NAFTA(AGREE)
* NASA...what does it mean?(NO OPINION)
* Environment, Environment, Environment(DISAGREE)

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I'd like to add-LESS GOVERNMENT IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:34 AM
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Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..

* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry (AGREE ON SEMI, DISAGREE ON CONCEALED)
* Ban the Death Penalty(STRONGLY DISAGREE)
* Full rights for Gays to marry(AGREE)
* Simplify the tax code(AGREE)
* No offshore drilling(STRONGLY DISAGREE)
* Pro Choice in first and second Trimesters(FIRST-YES, SECOND-NO)
* Stem Cell research at further levels(AGREE)
* Less farm subsidies unless warrented(AGREE)
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards(AGREE)
* Revisit NAFTA(AGREE)
* NASA...what does it mean?(NO OPINION)
* Environment, Environment, Environment(DISAGREE)

This should be fun..[/QUOTE





I'd like to add-LESS GOVERNMENT IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you have the wrong party in WH and congress,baby!
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:35 AM
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you have the wrong party in WH and congress,baby!

Sadly I am aware of that fact. But I have HOPE he will CHANGE!!!!
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:37 AM
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you have the wrong party in WH and congress,baby!

that used to be the case... Bush changed the rules though.. HOPEFULLY Bush is the exception, not the rule, or else the Republican party is done for.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:36 AM
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I figured I would have little or no support on the Death Penalty, but here are my reasons..obviously IMO

1) Since the gun lovers always invoke their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, I think it's reasonable to look at the 8th as well. If killing another person isn't considered "cruel and unusual punishment", I'm not sure what would qualify. And the "eye for an eye" logic doesn't cut it in my mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_a...ual_punishment

2) The fact that even one innocent person could be put to death, and we all know that many have, is reason enough to ban it.

3) A life sentence in solitary is a much more appropriate penalty and I can honestly say that god forbid I was in a position to have a say in sentencing, that is what I would request.

4) Without the need for appeals, millions and millions would be saved annually and would cover the extra facilities needed to house life without parole prisoners.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:47 AM
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I figured I would have little or no support on the Death Penalty, but here are my reasons..obviously IMO

1) Since the gun lovers always invoke their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, I think it's reasonable to look at the 8th as well. If killing another person isn't considered "cruel and unusual punishment", I'm not sure what would qualify. And the "eye for an eye" logic doesn't cut it in my mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_a...ual_punishment

2) The fact that even one innocent person could be put to death, and we all know that many have, is reason enough to ban it.

3) A life sentence in solitary is a much more appropriate penalty and I can honestly say that god forbid I was in a position to have a say in sentencing, that is what I would request.

4) Without the need for appeals, millions and millions would be saved annually and would cover the extra facilities needed to house life without parole prisoners.

OK, so just to clarify -- the death penalty for convicted felons is wrong, but abortion of the unborn, all of whom are innocent by definition, is OK??
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:51 AM
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OK, so just to clarify -- the death penalty for convicted felons is wrong, but abortion of the unborn, all of whom are innocent by definition, is OK??
I usually stay away from abortion posts because they are very personal choices and I probably should have left it off my original list for that reason. I think anyone opposed to abortion understands (but disagrees) the Pro-Choice opinion/logic so I'll leave it at that.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:02 AM
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I usually stay away from abortion posts because they are very personal choices and I probably should have left it off my original list for that reason. I think anyone opposed to abortion understands (but disagrees) the Pro-Choice opinion/logic so I'll leave it at that.
OK, fair enough -- it is the law of the land, currently, no matter how ill-conceived. I would point out that it's even a more personal matter for the individual being aborted.

By the way -- I would like to see a simplification of the tax code and a scrapping of NAFTA, which just goes to prove that their can be some even between those at opposite ends of the political spectrum.
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:14 PM
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I usually stay away from abortion posts because they are very personal choices and I probably should have left it off my original list for that reason. I think anyone opposed to abortion understands (but disagrees) the Pro-Choice opinion/logic so I'll leave it at that.
i also think they should get rid of the death penalty-the state should not make killing unlawful-rightfully so-and then engage in the same thing. and yes, i get that it's punishment.
now, there are still times when someone particularly loathsome is found guilty of some godawful crime that i have a very visceral response-kill the bastard. but that's why laws are supposed to be based on sound judgment, not emotion.
as for more gun laws-i hope you never get your wish. gun laws don't impact criminals-they only provide more victims. you think a criminal will think twice about committing a violent crime, because guns are illegal? uh, so's the robbery he's about to commit-he couldn't care less about any laws.
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I figured I would have little or no support on the Death Penalty, but here are my reasons..obviously IMO

1) Since the gun lovers always invoke their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, I think it's reasonable to look at the 8th as well. If killing another person isn't considered "cruel and unusual punishment", I'm not sure what would qualify. And the "eye for an eye" logic doesn't cut it in my mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_a...ual_punishment

2) The fact that even one innocent person could be put to death, and we all know that many have, is reason enough to ban it.

3) A life sentence in solitary is a much more appropriate penalty and I can honestly say that god forbid I was in a position to have a say in sentencing, that is what I would request.

4) Without the need for appeals, millions and millions would be saved annually and would cover the extra facilities needed to house life without parole prisoners.
use 1 to take care of 4..
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:16 PM
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I figured I would have little or no support on the Death Penalty, but here are my reasons..obviously IMO

1) Since the gun lovers always invoke their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, I think it's reasonable to look at the 8th as well. If killing another person isn't considered "cruel and unusual punishment", I'm not sure what would qualify. And the "eye for an eye" logic doesn't cut it in my mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_a...ual_punishment

2) The fact that even one innocent person could be put to death, and we all know that many have, is reason enough to ban it.
3) A life sentence in solitary is a much more appropriate penalty and I can honestly say that god forbid I was in a position to have a say in sentencing, that is what I would request.

4) Without the need for appeals, millions and millions would be saved annually and would cover the extra facilities needed to house life without parole prisoners.
actually, i read not long ago that there is no evidence that an innocent man (in the u.s.) has been put to death.
of course, banning it outright would keep it that way.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:29 AM
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Well....I'll open myself up to the daggers. Before the economy tanked and since Irag was always a no brainer...Here was my wish list over the next 4-8 years...in no particular order..

* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry
* Ban the Death Penalty
* Full rights for Gays to marry
* Simplify the tax code
* No offshore drilling
* Stem Cell research at further levels
* Less farm subsidies unless warrented
* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards
* Revisit NAFTA
* NASA...what does it mean?
* Environment, Environment, Environment

This should be fun..
Well, this is totally my wish list too, though you took the pro-choice part out probably to try to keep the other topics on point instead of veering off into an all-out abortion war here. Banning the death penalty would be pretty sweet.

Toss that back in, with a disclaimer that extends it into third trimester in certain, reasonable cases (ie those that are not just because someone put it off for 6 months -- which is not a rampant problem as is...) and you've pretty much made my list....I'm assuming your marriage rights assumes DADT was repealed as well, that's something I'm hoping to see.
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* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry.
Hitler would agree. I strongly DISAGREE

* Ban the Death Penalty
What crime could a child commit to earn the death penalty? BAN ABORTION first

* Full rights for Gays to marry
Full rights for Gays to Marry what?

* Simplify the tax code*
Bad for horse racing The Breck Girl already got it in a tax shelter anyway. How about cut spending?

* No offshore drilling - When congress quits flying around in jets DISAGREE

* Stem Cell research at further levels - Private sector doesn't believe in it DISAGREE

* Less farm subsidies unless warrented - What? Then how can the world bank give them loans guaranteed with my money to crappy ass 3rd world countries that buy US grain? ok, no Wind Farm Subsidies

* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards - Privatize the school system let parents pay

* Revisit NAFTA - NAFTA that was passed by a demChiComCrimocRat congress and sign by x-42

* NASA...what does it mean? National Aeronautics and Space Administration

* Environment, Environment, Environment - do you mean Gerbil Worming? It's cyclical and an excuse to use what is known as Green Communism US is #1 on the enviroment - try going after China , mexico and India or some other crap country
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* Ban semi-automatic weapons and no concealed carry.
Hitler would agree. I strongly DISAGREE

* Ban the Death Penalty
What crime could a child commit to earn the death penalty? BAN ABORTION first

* Full rights for Gays to marry
Full rights for Gays to Marry what?

* Simplify the tax code*
Bad for horse racing The Breck Girl already got it in a tax shelter anyway. How about cut spending?

* No offshore drilling - When congress quits flying around in jets DISAGREE

* Stem Cell research at further levels - Private sector doesn't believe in it DISAGREE

* Less farm subsidies unless warrented - What? Then how can the world bank give them loans guaranteed with my money to crappy ass 3rd world countries that buy US grain? ok, no Wind Farm Subsidies

* Revise "No Child Left Behind" to reasonable standards - Privatize the school system let parents pay

* Revisit NAFTA - NAFTA that was passed by a demChiComCrimocRat congress and sign by x-42

* NASA...what does it mean? National Aeronautics and Space Administration

* Environment, Environment, Environment - do you mean Gerbil Worming? It's cyclical and an excuse to use what is known as Green Communism US is #1 on the enviroment - try going after China , mexico and India or some other crap country

Fine work John..I would have expected nothing less from AE RightWingNut
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Fine work John..I would have expected nothing less from AE RightWingNut

thanks for the compliment
but as you can see by my answers I am more of a Centrist
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