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08-13-2008, 03:03 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ill&id=3532060
Though I usually diagree with most of what he has to say this does make a good point. Namely why does a mega rich guy like Jackson "need" to retire a horse like Curlin when the money made by him at stud cant possibly make a difference in his or his families life? I suppose one could ask the same thing about a guy who started a commercial breeding operation in his mid 70's. I have no idea what his family situation is but there doesnt appear to be anyone close to the sport besides him and his wife. The funny thing is that I think the horse will be a bust at stud. I know that if I was worth a billion dollars and had the best horse in the world you could bet he would be on display for as long as he was winning top races.
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08-13-2008, 03:12 PM
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But didn't Jackson make some ridiculous statement last year about how the horse could revolutionize the breed as a stallion? Curlin is a good racehorse, and I guess we owe Jackson some thanks for racing him this year. Still, some of his statements and actions this year regarding the horse have been....well.....a bit odd.
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08-13-2008, 03:16 PM
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08-13-2008, 03:33 PM
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Tenpins is very closely related to Curlin (by Smart Strike, out of a Deputy Minister mare) and my first thought is that 6k for him will probably be a better deal than whatever Curlin starts out at.
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08-13-2008, 04:07 PM
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This whole affair is comical. After how IEAH have turned their back on NYRA's premier races since Big Brown's Belmont debacle (no Travers, Woodward or Jockey Club Gold Cup), there is no way in the world that I'd create the "little" turf prep that they want written for the middle of September. They don't deserve to get a race written for them in New York. Let them ship to Calder or some other second tier track to get their prep race.
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08-13-2008, 04:19 PM
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It would be more fun to see Jackson and Ivarone square off on TVG and throw their bankrolls at each other's heads. Alternating lobs, scored for best hits 3 out of 5, three sets, a knockout automatic win.
Of course, Zito could gate-enter and probably win.
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08-13-2008, 05:58 PM
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08-13-2008, 09:42 PM
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Hell guys and gals , this is what they do for pr and keeping the talk on their
horses they probably had dinner last night together, and worked this angle for pr, all of you fall for the hype, the oldest pr trick in the book.
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Thank the good lord we's a got your wisdom 'round these parts to put us back on the right path.
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08-14-2008, 04:33 AM
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Why doesn't Curlin come to whatever grass race Big Brown goes to?
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08-14-2008, 05:56 AM
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because they weren't that impressed with his other try on grass? because they're chasing the all time earnings record, and big time purses in his next couple starts will get him there?
i am still amused that there was no mention of returning to turf with big brown until after curlins connections said they were going on dirt from now on. that's a way to avoid him without really seeming to do so...
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08-14-2008, 12:28 PM
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If either side wanted to issue a real challenge, they'd publicly say "we'll be in Boston on 9/20 for the Mass Cap. Be there if u aren't scared." It solves all the problems. It's real dirt which the Curlin people want. It's not on the Belmont dirt which the BB people don't want. It's plenty of time to prepare since BB's last race. It's plenty of time before the BC to give time to prepare for that race. And Commentator might be there too. It's perfect.
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08-14-2008, 02:42 PM
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true king...but i think curlins peeps are interested, while big browns are not. they didn't outline big browns next two races until word came out that curlin would do dirt the rest of the year, and would be skipping the bc. that way, they can try to take the high road, rather than appear that they are ducking-and they ARE ducking.
big brown hasn't run in a race yet that curlin could enter. jackson has been upfront about curlins schedule, giving ieah the info they needed should they wish to engage, which they obviously don't. thing is, curlin won't have ? over his head due to the non match up, but big brown will. and they won't get many thinking big brown would come out ahead in a match up with curlin.
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