4/11 (KEE): Maker's Mark Mile (Gr. I)

[cakes44]

Scavs, what I want to know is what are the odds of Out of Control getting scratched? That horse will be way overbet just because of Frankel/Gomez. His ability doesn't match up with these and his style of running won't match Keeneland's turf course.

He should be 20/1, but I'm guessing he gets bet down to 6/1 or 7/1 if Frankel actually runs him.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brockguy

surely 1000 words isnt good enough here?? why 9/2 scav

because people love Frankel and the last was somewhat impressive....

Your the Euro corespondent, she would toss 1000 words?

[brockguy]

1000 Words doesnt scream G1 horse to me, he never has, always came up short against a quality field.. he was a good 2year old but didnt really progress last year, in fact, his last few races in England were shocking..

Frankel does seem to be able to work the oracle on these types though..

[cakes44]

I was just perusing the nominations for this race and noticed Olympic Chief. How/why in the world is he not in this race?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

How has he runs since debuting in last years Arkansas Derby?

I think the Makers Mark would have been a shrewd spot for him to make his turf debut.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Scavs, what I want to know is what are the odds of Out of Control getting scratched? That horse will be way overbet just because of Frankel/Gomez. His ability doesn't match up with these and his style of running won't match Keeneland's turf course.

He should be 20/1, but I'm guessing he gets bet down to 6/1 or 7/1 if Frankel actually runs him.

i agree, he has taken advantage of some short semi questionable fields out west....

[cakes44]

That's what I thought too, drugs. The Chief ran in two MSWs since his debut, and was actually beaten less than a pole in his last. And...as we all know, Davidson knows how to get them to fire huge off the layoff.

[Mike]

I'll be interested on Ruff and Ready's actual odds, might be right there on the lead

[GPK]

Zann at 50-1?? You are more nuts than I thought. 2nd time for KMac and surely didn't have the easiest of trips last out at Gulf. He was 5-1 that day.

[mclem10011]

Originally Posted by philcski

9th (5:10) Maker's Mark Mile S. (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Kip Deville Velasquez C 123 L
2 Einstein (BRZ) Albarado R J 123 LA
3 Parading Velazquez J R 117 LA
4 Ruff and Ready Coa E M 117 LA
5 Thousand Words (GB) Castellano J J 117 LA
6 Zann Leparoux J R 117 LA
7 Cosmonaut Prado E S 119 L
8 Out of Control (BRZ) Gomez G K 121 LA
9 Shakis (IRE) Garcia Alan 117 LA
10 War Monger Desormeaux K J 119 LA
11 Thorn Song Bejarano R 117 LA



About as good a field for this category you would see outside of the BC Mile.

Wow! What a fine group, great race on tap!

[wac]

I hate to say it but the weather looks like its gonna awful all weekend here in the Bluegrass state. I wish it wasn't b/c this is a really good field and would love to be able to catch war monger back after that debacle in Calif. Just have to wait and see how things look on Friday.

[Alan07]

If it is off the turf, who would scratch?

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Scav

1 Kip Deville Velasquez C 123 = 2/1
2 Einstein (BRZ) Albarado R J 123 = 6/1
3 Parading Velazquez J R 117 = 30/1
4 Ruff and Ready Coa E M 117 = 50/1
5 Thousand Words (GB) Castellano J J 117 = 9/2
6 Zann Leparoux J R 117 = 50/1
7 Cosmonaut Prado E S 119 = 4/1
8 Out of Control (BRZ) Gomez G K 121 = 12/1
9 Shakis (IRE) Garcia Alan 117 = 10/1
10 War Monger Desormeaux K J 119 = 8/1
11 Thorn Song Bejarano R 117 = 50/1

This is without a doubt the worst ML in history. Scav, u r the man.

My top 3 picks were the fav and two 50-1 shots. "back up the truck time".

[knickslions2]

1 1 Kip Deville Velasquez C Dutrow, Jr. R E 123 L 5-2
2 2 Einstein (BRZ) Albarado R J Pitts Helen 123 LA 4-1
3 3 Parading Velazquez J R McGaughey III C R 117 LA 20-1
4 4 Ruff and Ready Coa E M Pletcher Todd A 117 LA 10-1
5 5 Thousand Words (GB) Castellano J J Frankel Robert 117 LA 10-1
6 6 Zann Leparoux J R McLaughlin Kiaran P 117 LA 10-1
7 7 Cosmonaut Prado E S Serpe Philip M 119 L 6-1
8 8 Out of Control (BRZ) Gomez G K Frankel Robert 121 LA 10-1
9 9 Shakis (IRE) Garcia Alan McLaughlin Kiaran P 117 LA 8-1
10 10 War Monger Desormeaux K J Mott William I 119 LA 10-1
11 11 Thorn Song Bejarano R Romans Dale 117 LA 15-1


Great field like Shakis at 8-1

[Scav]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

This is without a doubt the worst ML in history. Scav, u r the man.

My top 3 picks were the fav and two 50-1 shots. "back up the truck time".

I was pretty close on most of them. But yeah, way off on others. 10/1 on Ruff and Ready is ridiculous. He is facing multiple graded stakes horses, I would play the horse at 45/1 or better.

NEVER SAID I WAS A GENIUS at ML making. I'll add this to the multiple page document of things I am not a genius at

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Scav

I was pretty close on most of them. But yeah, way off on others. 10/1 on Ruff and Ready is ridiculous. He is facing multiple graded stakes horses, I would play the horse at 45/1 or better.

NEVER SAID I WAS A GENIUS at ML making. I'll add this to the multiple page document of things I am not a genius at

As for your sig, The Bid is the king of the hedge. trust me.

[Scav]

I take back what I said about Ruff and Ready. Besides Kip Deville, he is the fastest damn horse in the race.

I do think Kip Deville is unplayable here. I would much rather play him in his next start then this one.

As much as I don't want to say this, Einstein is value here, along with Ruff and Ready and Shakis.

[hockey2315]

From 50-1 to one of your top picks, Scavie? I like Ruff and Ready too.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

From 50-1 to one of your top picks, Scavie? I like Ruff and Ready too.

Yeah, I'm a moron. Ran a real good number last time, but he hasn't faced much. Don't really have a top pick in the race, very contentious. If I had to play one horse, I would be playing Einstein to Win and boxing him with like four other horses in the exacta.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

All I can say is.....WOW! what a race, as good as it gets.