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Old 06-17-2007, 05:39 AM
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I can add a story that inadvertantly involves Chuck (Simon) before I got to know him. Summer of 2002 at Toga, Chuck had a hotwalker/groom that was a major character that ate daily with us at the Barbecue. He would only let Tanya (my g/f at the time) make his plate as 'she knows what I want'. She would pile cole slaw and beans on the plate and make him an enormous sandwich as we figured it was his only meal of the day as most of his money was going through the windows.

He started to ask to borrow $20 from me here or there mid-meet, and I was in for maybe $80 and even Barry contributed $50 as we got towards the last 10 days. He kept telling us that Chuck had a horse that was going to run before the meet ended and was a sure winner and that he was going to be a price and that he'd pay us back after making a big score on it...

The last week, he tells us the horse is running Friday and 'wouldn't lose'. I want to say the horse was the Ramsey's Nothing to Lose in his 2yo old debut. Sure enough, the horse wins, and Barry and I loaded up on him. I think he paid something like $34.00 and we had him $20 ATB and the exacta as well. We both took down $1,500 or so.

There is a sad coda to this though.. The next day, we see Chuck's guy when he comes to see if we caught the horse, and I thank him up and down. When I asked him how he did however, it turns out that he had blown his bankroll before the race and didn't have enough to really score out on the play. He said he'd pay us back at Churchill in the fall, but I told him he didn't owe us anything: he'd paid us back in spades with the tip. And I gave him another c-note as an added thank you.

We never saw him after that, and I asked Chuck and Cherie about him earlier this spring... I think they said his name was 'Bill' and he's still at Churchill working for another trainer...
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Old 06-17-2007, 08:46 AM
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best tip i ever heard was believe it or not while listening to the hank goldberg show on radio in miami. his guest that day was at the time the catcher for the marlins paul lo duca. he brought up the subject ot horseracing to him because i believe he does own some horses and also likes to play. this was a few months before the derby and he said he had some friends who had a horse who they really felt had a big shot to take the derby. i took a stab and listened because at the time the horse was 50-1 in the winter book. the horse he gave just happened to be Giacomo. i still love paul lo duca til this day. after 28 yrs of owning horses i can tell you that 99% of "tips" are crap.
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:24 AM
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The last week, he tells us the horse is running Friday and 'wouldn't lose'. I want to say the horse was the Ramsey's Nothing to Lose in his 2yo old debut. Sure enough, the horse wins, and Barry and I loaded up on him. I think he paid something like $34.00 and we had him $20 ATB and the exacta as well. We both took down $1,500 or so.
He was tremendously impressive in his debut...and looked like an authentic future top class turf horse in victory.

As I recall, he was transfered not long after the race, to the barn of Lukas, in I guess what was supposed to be a move to make a triple crown candidate out of him.

That didn't exactly work out so well.
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:22 AM
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This was early in my OTB "career" This guy notices that I am always trying to get some huge longshot home. He mentions this horse running at Delaware that used to run at Calder. Looked awful. Said, he was a horse to watch according the DRF. I put $10 bucks on him to win and show. Horse goes off 80-1 waited for the rail to open up on the turn, shot through and left 'em like they were standing still.

The sad thing was he only included the horse int he double and the horse that was supposed to be a lock in the 2nd - ran 2nd. He didn't get a dime.

Same day later I tried to return the favor. Pointed out a horse that was working bullets. He was 25-1. I tell him and the horse goes off at 15-1.
Always wondered if I told the wrong guy

We've been friends ever since.
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:45 AM
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I gave some guy Brass Hat when he won in the Rushaway as a maiden & he thought I was God. I love that horse...is he back in training?
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:27 PM
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Was at Fairmount Park when i was 15 im now 21. My dad had taken me to the paddock for the fourth race. There was a filly who i dont remember her name but She was 10-1 and I heard the jockey and the groom talking and the groom asked, is she gonna hit the board, and the jockey said, "Oh Yea" I told my dad he should place a show wager on her we didnt and she ended up 3rd not as good as yall's story but im still young got a long ways to go.
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Old 06-17-2007, 02:20 PM
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I gave some guy Brass Hat when he won in the Rushaway as a maiden & he thought I was God. I love that horse...is he back in training?

he is back in training and they are planning on running him before the end of the churchill meet if all goes well.
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Old 06-17-2007, 02:31 PM
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he is back in training and they are planning on running him before the end of the churchill meet if all goes well.
Sweet! Thanks.
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