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Old 04-19-2007, 07:43 PM
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Keeneland was not slow today
I should say the shape of the race, not always final time wise
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:33 AM
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I It's amazing the allowance races on the poly are 80% turf horses. As Andy Beyer said 'they are penalizing horses for being fast'.
NO! they are penalizing horses for being poorly conditioned. Horses on or near the lead have run well (look at Ball Four and Silent Name) but they will wilt if they are lacking in fitness. Or can compensate by being bred to run 12f (like a turf horse).
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:34 AM
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NO! they are penalizing horses for being poorly conditioned. Horses on or near the lead have run well (look at Ball Four and Silent Name) but they will wilt if they are lacking in fitness. Or can compensate by being bred to run 12f (like a turf horse).
I don't buy that.
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:00 PM
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Just my view, but Poly isn't "penalizing horses for being fast", its simply making them use their speed differently. Instead of blazing early fractions there are now blazing late fractions. Beyer complains that no speed horses can win at Keeneland while failing to point out that Keeneland's dirt course was in an opposite sense extremely unfair to closers or even stalkers most of the time and had a ridiculous rail bias in which many lesser "speed horses" beat more talented horses who happened to be closers.
Of course, I'm not a bettor really, just a fan, and it doesn't hurt my pocketbook one way or the other. So my two cents is just that...two cents.
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