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Old 04-07-2007, 08:34 PM
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kev,

they have taken the excitement out of this course. The back 9 at Augusta on Sunday afternoon was to me the best golf to watch on TV. Things happened so fast with the par 5's and rae's creek, but they have made this course to hard now.

I don't think we'll see a 30 on the back like Jack had in '86 ever again.
It's too bad, Hootie and the boys made this place to tough with all these trees. #7 is a joke now, used to a a long iron off the tee , left a short iron, now, there hitting a driver and a mid to long iron to a green that was not designed to have a long club in. #1 the medium to short hitters can't get the ball up on the top of the hill, just kills these guys.
These scores are a joke, for a tournament that is an invitational. The 2 founders have this course Jones and Roberts gotta be questioning what ever happend to their golf course. Hootie went overboard and f'd up a great place.
Martin....


I see what you are saying...it is exciting to see these guys shoot lights out...but we get that week in and week out. I LOVE major championships like this. Majors are supposed to be hard work. I love the firm and fast conditions...makes these guys use imagination. Every PGA Tour event now, all they do is BOMB it off the tee...and wedge it on from there. No course management anymore. Look what Tiger did in the British Open last year. He was the only one in the field with enough mental discipline and fortitude to play the tournament for 72 holes and only use the driver ONE TIME. Tons of guys out there now hit it just as far, if not farther than Tiger. Many of them could have played the British the same way last year...but they lack the mental toughness to do it. Tiger "gets it"...he sees how a course is supposed to be played, knows that he possesses the strength to stick to his game plan...and that is why he continues to beat these guys like a drum.

Hogan was the same way...
Nicklaus was the same way...
Faldo was the same way...
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:48 PM
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I see what you are saying...it is exciting to see these guys shoot lights out...but we get that week in and week out. I LOVE major championships like this. Majors are supposed to be hard work. I love the firm and fast conditions...makes these guys use imagination. Every PGA Tour event now, all they do is BOMB it off the tee...and wedge it on from there. No course management anymore. Look what Tiger did in the British Open last year. He was the only one in the field with enough mental discipline and fortitude to play the tournament for 72 holes and only use the driver ONE TIME. Tons of guys out there now hit it just as far, if not farther than Tiger. Many of them could have played the British the same way last year...but they lack the mental toughness to do it. Tiger "gets it"...he sees how a course is supposed to be played, knows that he possesses the strength to stick to his game plan...and that is why he continues to beat these guys like a drum.

Hogan was the same way...
Nicklaus was the same way...
Faldo was the same way...
Oh I have no doubt that Tiger will win tomorrow because he does have it figured out and he is mentally tougher than everyone else. I just thinks it's a huge let down when you don't hear the roar on Amen Corner or eagles on 13 and 15 and on and on....I don't mind a test like U.S. Open but they lose me when they screw it up and I think they did this time. jmo.....hey kev, our girl didn't look good....Porter needs to let her go have babies....
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:02 PM
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Oh I have no doubt that Tiger will win tomorrow because he does have it figured out and he is mentally tougher than everyone else. I just thinks it's a huge let down when you don't hear the roar on Amen Corner or eagles on 13 and 15 and on and on....I don't mind a test like U.S. Open but they lose me when they screw it up and I think they did this time. jmo.....hey kev, our girl didn't look good....Porter needs to let her go have babies....

Sam....it aint over yet. They will put some water on the greens tonight....there will be some accesible pins tomorrow....you will hear some roars....when they make PARS

I just love good hard tough golf courses. I love seeing the best in the world have to play precision golf a few weeks a year. They get it too easy the other weeks. The 4 majors should be hard work for those guys.


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Old 04-07-2007, 09:03 PM
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I see what you are saying...it is exciting to see these guys shoot lights out...but we get that week in and week out. I LOVE major championships like this. Majors are supposed to be hard work. I love the firm and fast conditions...makes these guys use imagination. Every PGA Tour event now, all they do is BOMB it off the tee...and wedge it on from there. No course management anymore. Look what Tiger did in the British Open last year. He was the only one in the field with enough mental discipline and fortitude to play the tournament for 72 holes and only use the driver ONE TIME. Tons of guys out there now hit it just as far, if not farther than Tiger. Many of them could have played the British the same way last year...but they lack the mental toughness to do it. Tiger "gets it"...he sees how a course is supposed to be played, knows that he possesses the strength to stick to his game plan...and that is why he continues to beat these guys like a drum.

Hogan was the same way...
Nicklaus was the same way...
Faldo was the same way...
The golf course in not the same when Faldo won , Nicklaus won , and Palmer won. I am not against adding some yardage, I am against changing the nature of the course to what the original desingers had done. These trees on 15 look like they are almost in the middle of the fairway, it's a joke , Hootie didn't want to see the winner at -12 evey year.

But what a lot of people were missing Kev was that -12 at the masters is 276. When somene wins the open at -3 , the score is 277. I don't think they needed these drastic changes. 13 could have become a par 4 , and maybe one of the par 5's on the front could have been brought up to have a par 70 course if they wanted a low under par score to win. THis is not the same course any more and it's a shame.
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:08 PM
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The golf course in not the same when Faldo won , Nicklaus won , and Palmer won. I am not against adding some yardage, I am against changing the nature of the course to what the original desingers had done. These trees on 15 look like they are almost in the middle of the fairway, it's a joke , Hootie didn't want to see the winner at -12 evey year.

But what a lot of people were missing Kev was that -12 at the masters is 276. When somene wins the open at -3 , the score is 277. I don't think they needed these drastic changes. 13 could have become a par 4 , and maybe one of the par 5's on the front could have been brought up to have a par 70 course if they wanted a low under par score to win. THis is not the same course any more and it's a shame.

I understand you position Martin..and I respect it.

To me...par means nothing. If it takes shooting 290 or 291 to win a major tournament...then dammit...shoot that 290.

The golf ball has changed the game completely.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:44 PM
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I gotta agree with gales. Now I'm not greenskeeper, so I don't know how much of this is due to the cold weather and how much of it is due to Augusta National, but whatever the blame, this Masters is lacking everything that has made it what it is. I don't have a problem when the USGA forces accuracy off the tee in U.S. Opens or makes the greens the fastest of the year, because good shots get rewarded. Now are there some times where it doesn't work out? sure. But this years Masters is not only the worst Masters I can remember, it may be the worst major I can remember. These guys are flat out afraid to hit the ball. I don't know about anyone else, but I damn sure don't want to see the world's best avg 78 on moving day of a major. Hell we could get that in the 3rd round of the Derby Trail Invitational. Not a whole lot to say other than a major dissappointment for an event I look forward to watching every year.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:52 PM
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I'll take Kev in the DT Invite! It's because they bikini wax the darn greens... oops, I shouldn't have written that.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:53 PM
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GPK, My dog, Tiger once again Boged 17 & 18. No matter, in the final pair, which has produced the winner since 91 or so. Our boy will preveil. Tell Phil to get my Fukin jacket ready!

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Old 04-08-2007, 05:59 PM
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Scores after 54 holes....and my predictions (in green) on what they will shoot tomorrow.

1 7 Stuart Appleby +2 F +1 75 70 73 - 218 75
T2 2 Justin Rose +3 F +3 69 75 75 - 219 76
T2 13 Tiger Woods +3 F E 73 74 72 - 219 71
T4 1 Vaughn Taylor +4 F +5 71 72 77 - 220 78
T4 — Zach Johnson +4 F +4 71 73 76 - 220 75

T4 4 Padraig Harrington +4 F +3 77 68 75 - 220 72
7 1 Bradley Dredge +5 F +4 75 70 76 - 221 77
T8 7 Tim Clark +6 F +8 71 71 80 - 222 73
T8 4 Jerry Kelly +6 F +6 75 69 78 - 222 75
T8 6 Jim Furyk +6 F +4 75 71 76 - 222 72
T8 7 Luke Donald +6 F +3 73 74 75 - 222 73
T8 17 David Toms +6 F +2 70 78 74 - 222 73
T8 19 Rory Sabbatini +6 F +1 73 76 73 - 222 76
T8 19 Phil Mickelson +6 F +1 76 73 73 - 222 74
T8 38 Retief Goosen +6 F -2 76 76 70 - 222 71


Appleby - 75- right on the money
Rose - 73 - sucked up towards the end...beats me by 2
Tiger - 72 - off by 1 shot
Taylor - 75 - better than I though today...but never a factor
Johnson - 69 - showed heart and grit today...will need to prove this was no fluke....
Harrington - 73 - thought he would be more of a factor earlier...
Dredge - 83 - I overestimated him today
Clark - 74 - off by 1 shot
Kelly - 70 - surprise...but a non factor.
Furyk - 72 - huge dissapointment....thought he would be heard from early
Donald - 73 - another non factor.
Toms - 72 - another late non factor
Sabbatini - 69 - TONS better than I expected.....thought his lack of patience would be his undoing.
Mickelson - 77 - being wrong has never felt so good
Goosen - 69 - 1 shot off....played like I thought he would...

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Old 04-08-2007, 06:07 PM
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Well if you're going to win only one major then the Masters is definitely the one I would want to win. He didn't choke and he put up a solid number.
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Old 04-08-2007, 06:11 PM
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Well if you're going to win only one major then the Masters is definitely the one I would want to win. He didn't choke and he put up a solid number.

No doubt PP....you shoot 69 today...you are a deserving winner.
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Old 04-08-2007, 06:36 PM
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Tiger really dissapointed, at least he broke a club in half showing how strong he is
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Old 04-08-2007, 01:08 PM
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Little softer conditions for today....scores should be a bit lower than the previous 3 days.


on another note...Mickelson makes a triple bogey on the 1st hole today....and that makes GPK a VERY HAPPY MAN


12 pack and the final round of the Masters......Easter gets no better than this.
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Old 04-08-2007, 01:35 PM
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wow....all of a sudden...+4 is leading the tournament.
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RETIEF IS COMING...my guy

and sweet tits TRIPLED to open up, bye bye psyche
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Old 04-08-2007, 01:44 PM
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RETIEF IS COMING...my guy

and sweet tits TRIPLED to open up, bye bye psyche

Tom....best day of the year for me....bar none. I don't care who wins....Sunday at Augusta is my Ky Derby, Super Bowl, World Series, etc....all wrapped into 1 afternoon....
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Old 04-08-2007, 02:25 PM
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Did Rory really just make that sh*t???
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:15 PM
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if these guys are ever gonna beat Tiger...today is the day. Hitting 3 wood off of #8 tee??? That speaks volumes about him being uncomfortable with his swing. If they don't get him today...they will never get him.
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:51 PM
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You're right, Kev. Tiger is playing like crap.
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:55 PM
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You're right, Kev. Tiger is playing like crap.

yeah PP....all the haters should be showing up any moment.

"Tiger has never won a major from behind...he is a front runner only"


Yeah...I can name about 200+ guys on the PGA Tour that would give their left testicle just to have won 12 PGA Tour titles...let alone 12 MAJORS"
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