Proof of BC "Golden Rail"?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Search my Street Sense article from November...All the goodies are inside.

not that interested to go that far. I'll just wait until next Saturday and draw my own conclusion.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

not that interested to go that far. I'll just wait until next Saturday and draw my own conclusion.

Bumped for you.

[blackthroatedwind]

The idea is to bet against mediocre horses that get reputations that are undeserved. Street Sense, while aided by the dynamics of the race as well as the bias, is not one of these horses.

Look, even if he was the likeliest winner of the Derby at this point, he still is no better than 20-1 in reality. Hell, even sound he probably isn't 60% to make the Derby. However, the idea that he won't make the Derby because he ran too fast in early November is beyond ridiculous.

Street Sense is a very good horse. We don't have a lot of these in actuality anymore. It's possible he may be capable of running more than one or two good races. Ya know, horses used to be able to do this.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.

Well if he does win that race....then how exactly is he "finished"? Isn't it weird to say a horse is "finished" and then say that he should win a graded stakes race next weekend?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The idea is to bet against mediocre horses that get reputations that are undeserved. Street Sense, while aided by the dynamics of the race as well as the bias, is not one of these horses.

Look, even if he was the likeliest winner of the Derby at this point, he still is no better than 20-1 in reality. Hell, even sound he probably isn't 60% to make the Derby. However, the idea that he won't make the Derby because he ran too fast in early November is beyond ridiculous.

Street Sense is a very good horse. We don't have a lot of these in actuality anymore. It's possible he may be capable of running more than one or two good races. Ya know, horses used to be able to do this.

You don't use Thoros so you have a different view. If you did, you'd likely agree.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Well if he does win that race....then how exactly is he "finished"? Isn't it weird to say a horse is "finished" and then say that he should win a graded stakes race next weekend?

Read the thread I just bumped.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You don't use Thoros so you have a different view. If you did, you'd likely agree.

I use them and I don't agree with you at all.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.

By the way, this is embarrassing double talk. It isn't even clear he is the favorite next week.

If you're going to take a stand in this game, which you mystifyingly seem to be at least attempting to do here, then DO IT. Don't hedge.

Be a man!

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

By the way, this is embarrassing double talk. It isn't even clear he is the favorite next week.

If you're going to take a stand in this game, which you mystifyingly seem to be at least attempting to do here, then DO IT. Don't hedge.

Be a man!

You don't think he'll be the fave! Haha...Hey guess what, I took at stand in November. So this isn't new...

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Bumped for you.

yeah I saw it but I'm not convinced.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

By the way, this is embarrassing double talk. It isn't even clear he is the favorite next week.

If you're going to take a stand in this game, which you mystifyingly seem to be at least attempting to do here, then DO IT. Don't hedge.

Be a man!

Apparently when someone says a horse is "finished" they don't mean "finished winning graded stakes races."
It is a bit confusing.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You don't think he'll be the fave! Haha...Hey guess what, I took at stand in November. So this isn't new...

You're not taking a stand.....you're already hedging. Either he's through or he isn't. Take a position. As of now you are attempting to cover all your bases.

Any Given Sunday, with a race over the track, may very well be the favorite.

[SniperSB23]

Anyone else thinking Street Sense goes in that allowance on Thursday?

[randallscott35]

You know what. Look at the study done by horses who run negatives early in their 3 yr old season and when they run them again. He ran a huge negative as a two year old----you don't think the fact that he hasn't raced yet is an issue?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Anyone else thinking Street Sense goes in that allowance on Thursday?

I hear if he does...Randall thinks he's a cinch.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You don't use Thoros so you have a different view. If you did, you'd likely agree.

I use thoro numbers, but don't think you can project how a horse will perform six months in the future by looking at a number today.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Anyone else thinking Street Sense goes in that allowance on Thursday?

If he does that tells you all you need to know.

[blackthroatedwind]

The good news for Street Sense is he earned his speed figure while getting a perfect trip on a gold rail...thus his number should be adjusted upwards....and out of negative territory.

What a relief.


If he had only run last in the Juvie....he'd be a living cinch in the Derby.

Now, if you don't mind I'm going to return to sane conversation....with my imaginary rabbit.

[randallscott35]

Andy, the red headed step child of the board. Did I say he will win on Sat, he could. But if he wins with an 85 Beyer, what would you think? That's a positive? Gimme a break here.

Here is what I stand by: --that he won't be in the Derby
That he won't run a negative the rest of his 3 yr old season
That he won't win a Grade 1 the rest of his career

That good enough for you....Make some calls of your own here before you knock people who actually do take a stand.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

If he does that tells you all you need to know.

That he already has graded earnings and they'd rather bring him back in an easy spot at 7 furlongs?