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Old 03-07-2007, 10:59 AM
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Kent D., I just don't trust him on any of his mounts these days.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:19 AM
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He may not belong on a worst ever list...but Rudy Rodreguez(?sp) has never been one of my go to guys....

Is Dale Beckner still riding...he had a great Saratoga meet as a bug boy but went downhill fast afterwards
He's number 2 on mine!
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:21 AM
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1. mike luzzi
2. jose valdivia
3. jose espinoza
4. tyler baze
5. manoel cruz last Saturday
Not sure if he is one of the worst jocks ever, but Jose Espinoza is one of the worst on the NYRA circuit now
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:24 AM
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Not sure if he is one of the worst jocks ever, but Jose Espinoza is one of the worst on the NYRA circuit now
I've had him at a price on the turf in the past...there are a lot worst than him right now @ the Big A.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:39 AM
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I've had him at a price on the turf in the past...there are a lot worst than him right now @ the Big A.
I completely agree... had him at 100 to 1 on a Scott Everett horse at the Spa a few meets ago...NY Bred on the weeds third off the layoff. Scott told me a week in advance to watch for the horse
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:42 AM
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He's on my good jockey list for a little while after riding a $20
winner for me last week in the 1st race at the Thorne
I predict a short-lived stay on that list.

Its the kiss of death for me if I like the horse and then I see Lopez has the mount? I want to immediately toss him but I know there does exist the possibility that one of these days a horse will drag him to the line first despite his best efforts.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:47 AM
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I predict a short-lived stay on that list.

Its the kiss of death for me if I like the horse and then I see Lopez has the mount? I want to immediately toss him but I know there does exist the possibility that one of these days a horse will drag him to the line first despite his best efforts.
clean out your inbox, fool.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:50 AM
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clean out your inbox, fool.
okay, sheez. some people!
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:52 AM
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I've had him at a price on the turf in the past...there are a lot worst than him right now @ the Big A.
Sad, but true there are jocks worse than Espinoza at Aquesduct this winter. But over the past two years in 647 starts he has had only 32 wins.
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Old 03-07-2007, 12:03 PM
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The worst by far has to be Martin Escobar, he is god awful...after him has to be Mike Smith.
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Old 03-07-2007, 12:42 PM
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Filiberto Leon-much better cook
Taylor Hole-barred for life
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I have never seen a jockey put other riders in as much danger as Miss Chantal Sutherland....Wow, shes ceases to amaze me with some of the rides that she gives..If i notice it, how dont these trainers, that opt to put her on their charges...
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Don't think there is enough bandwidth here to fit my list. Since I play Tampa every day, I can start there with my bottom five in no particular order:

Liz Cedeno
Craig Faine
Walter Llagas
Roger Moore
Tom Foley

I could go on and on...

Any of those five could wear the crown of worst ever.
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:21 PM
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Don't think there is enough bandwidth here to fit my list. Since I play Tampa every day, I can start there with my bottom five in no particular order:

Liz Cedeno
Craig Faine
Walter Llagas
Roger Moore
Tom Foley

I could go on and on...

Any of those five could wear the crown of worst ever.

I hate Joe Bravo, can't win with him or against..Wish he'd retire and join Pat waitallDay....
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:24 PM
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I have never seen a jockey put other riders in as much danger as Miss Chantal Sutherland....Wow, shes ceases to amaze me with some of the rides that she gives..If i notice it, how dont these trainers, that opt to put her on their charges...

Yeah, but she's a great looker, should go into modeling full time.....
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:29 PM
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Eddie Arcaro, rode 250 losers before finally winning a race, however, he recovered pretty good winning 4778 more after that

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Old 03-07-2007, 01:32 PM
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Yeah, but she's a great looker, should go into modeling full time.....
I know..I was astounded by her beauty when I saw her at Philly pARK.. it was then i realized the trainers were probably trying to throw it in her...how else could you explain her getting mounts??
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:46 PM
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The worst jockey ever is....................1982 Eclipse Award Winning Apprentice Jockey Alberto Delgado, but I am biased. He screwed us once when he was our jockey at a time much later in his life. I think he averages about 100 mounts a year. I think he was struggling to pay his rent. He shouldn't be screwing anyone he works for....PERIOD. That midget, who by the way is bigger than the trainer we had at the time, rode the first two races at Laurel then left before our race.

He only informed the trainer in the Paddock before the first race. The trainer was so pissed he didn't have words. Apparently he had committed to another evening mount at Penn National???? He was our regular exercise jockey in MD and I had personally spoken to him every morning about the upcoming race. He failed to mention the Penn thing on any of the mornings he spoke to me or the trainer. So while the second is being run the trainer informed us of the jockey's new priorities.

The trainer said to "give him an ear full" when he got off his mount after the second. My partners and I gave it to him from the moment he got off the horse, until he was in the jocks room. Needless to say, he neither exercised our horses or rode them ever again.

Therefore, I have sour grapes and he is the worst jockey of all time.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:02 PM
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Filiberto Leon-much better cook
Taylor Hole-barred for life
Wasn't it Filberto Leon who was involved in and/or caused the bad spill that busted up Julie Krone at Saratoga several years back??
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:13 PM
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here are two of the worst jockeys:
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