Saratoga Robbery

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I would like anyone who reads this thread to comment if you think Im trolling here??

I didn't see the race, didn't watch the replay, am only commenting on this part and ONLY cause you asked...

I think the problem is that whenever Pointman has a strong feeling on something and vocalizes it you usually show up and, inevitably, disagree.

... and then it escalates.

Maybe you should think about just stepping away from it next time... don't comment at all. There are plenty of people to engage in conversation. If you're always right there to have an opinion on his (opinion) then yeah... it could be construed as trolling.

Does this make sense?

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I didn't see the race, didn't watch the replay, am only commenting on this part and ONLY cause you asked...

I think the problem is that whenever Pointman has a strong feeling on something and vocalizes it you usually show up and, inevitably, disagree.

... and then it escalates.

Maybe you should think about just stepping away from it next time... don't comment at all. There are plenty of people to engage in conversation. If you're always right there to have an opinion on his (opinion) then yeah... it could be construed as trolling.

Does this make sense?

well said

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I didn't see the race, didn't watch the replay, am only commenting on this part and ONLY cause you asked...

I think the problem is that whenever Pointman has a strong feeling on something and vocalizes it you usually show up and, inevitably, disagree.

... and then it escalates.

Maybe you should think about just stepping away from it next time... don't comment at all. There are plenty of people to engage in conversation. If you're always right there to have an opinion on his (opinion) then yeah... it could be construed as trolling.

Does this make sense?

You have always been nice to me, you have defended me and you know I appreciate it. But I respectfully disagree with this. I commented an hour later on a race I wagered on. I used 4 horses in the pick 3 the DQ horse and the put up horse. I cashed, but would have cashed huge if they left it.... I was just giving my opinion on what I saw. I am entitled to an opinion. I also posted Crists opinion. He did not like that either and I believe he said Crist was full of it.
Its not always either, I dont post on everything he says. I hardly quote him at all. Thats what he likes to say to justify the personal attacks, calling me a troll,etc....

[pointman]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

You have always been nice to me, you have defended me and you know I appreciate it. But I respectfully disagree with this. I commented an hour later on a race I wagered on. I used 4 horses in the pick 3 the DQ horse and the put up horse. I cashed, but would have cashed huge if they left it.... I was just giving my opinion on what I saw. I am entitled to an opinion. I also posted Crists opinion. He did not like that either and I believe he said Crist was full of it.
Its not always either, I dont post on everything he says. I hardly quote him at all. Thats what he likes to say to justify the personal attacks, calling me a troll,etc....

What a bunch of nonsense. The most telling part that this is complete BS is that you didn't use the 1 on any ticket. Don't post some fake numbers and put "Accepted" next to it, that is evidence of nothing. You are a pathetic trolling liar.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by pointman

What a bunch of nonsense. The most telling part that this is complete BS is that you didn't use the 1 on any ticket. Don't post some fake numbers and put "Accepted" next to it, that is evidence of nothing. You are a pathetic trolling liar.

very well said!

[NTamm1215]

Just my $.02...

This was the wrong call, but it was a (relatively) close call. Junior Alvarado was negligent in not ensuring his mount maintained a straight course. As DrugS alluded to on Twitter, the proper punishment would have been to leave the order as is, and simply fine Alvarado (both for the stretch issues and the far turn bear out). However, the 1 did take the 3's path ever so briefly in mid-stretch. It is my opinion that this did not cost the 3 a placing and that's why the number should have stayed up.

The problem with the Mshawish race was that the instigator was really the 3, who was herded out into his two rivals to his outside. That forced Irad Ortiz, Jr. to move Mshawish out, even after contact had been initiated by the 9. For the numerous situations this meet where numbers stayed up, these were two pretty weak DQs by a group of stewards that are, at best, inconsistent.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Just my $.02...

This was the wrong call, but it was a (relatively) close call. Junior Alvarado was negligent in not ensuring his mount maintained a straight course. As DrugS alluded to on Twitter, the proper punishment would have been to leave the order as is, and simply fine Alvarado (both for the stretch issues and the far turn bear out). However, the 1 did take the 3's path ever so briefly in mid-stretch. It is my opinion that this did not cost the 3 a placing and that's why the number should have stayed up.

The problem with the Mshawish race was that the instigator was really the 3, who was herded out into his two rivals to his outside. That forced Irad Ortiz, Jr. to move Mshawish out, even after contact had been initiated by the 9. For the numerous situations this meet where numbers stayed up, these were two pretty weak DQs by a group of stewards that are, at best, inconsistent.

Just to be clear... You just said pretty much what I said other then you thought the call Monday was wrong. I thought it was close, but correct.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I didn't see the race, didn't watch the replay, am only commenting on this part and ONLY cause you asked...

I think the problem is that whenever Pointman has a strong feeling on something and vocalizes it you usually show up and, inevitably, disagree.

... and then it escalates.

Maybe you should think about just stepping away from it next time... don't comment at all. There are plenty of people to engage in conversation. If you're always right there to have an opinion on his (opinion) then yeah... it could be construed as trolling.

Does this make sense?

Exactly. He knows what he is doing.